I was in the need for a new bed and I decided to splurge a little and get a memory foam mattress. I have been researching foam mattress online for quite a while and have heard mostly good things about visco-elastic memory foam mattresses. All was good with these except for the price. Lucky for me my new job gave us Costco memberships…so I checked out there site and saw that they had Novaform Memory Foam mattresses in their online catalog. With a little bit more research I decided to purchase one. I would have gotten it right from the costco store, but they only had queen size beds, and I wanted to stick with a full/double size since all of my bedding was already that size.
I waiting until the conversion rate between the US and Canada favored the US dollar and ordered the Novaform mattress online at costco. The price was 669.99 plus taxes Canadian, and it included shipping. Include PST and GST and the price was up around $100 more…still a bargain for a memory foam mattress regardless of brand or store!
Costco had good email communication and shipped the mattress the next day. 2 days later it was scheduled for delivery and I was ready to get the mattress. My excitement quickly turned into rage once I found out the douchebag driver at UPS decided not to drop it off that Friday night when it was scheduled. Of course here in Canada they do not do fuck all on the weekend, so I had to wait until Monday to sleep in this new memory foam bed.
Well Monday I go to work and the Novaform was delivered. It comes in a giant box, it was like 3.5 feet by 2 feet by 2 feet and weighed around 80 lbs. If you purchase the queen sized bed at a costco store the price is a bit cheaper (no shipping) and it comes in a sweet box with a metal frame on the bottom with casters so you can roll it around.
Well I lug this bitch into my bedroom, open the box…CAREFULLY! Inside there is this giant mylar/tinfoil looking bag that is vacuum sealed around the foam mattress. I read the instruction and carefully cut this open. Inside is another bag containing the mattress and is also vacuum sealed. Well the second you cut this bag open it whistles as air is sucked in and the mattress starts to grow. I open it the rest of the way and the stick of toxic fumes hits my sinuses… I read reviews that the smell was intense for a few days and reminded people of gasoline…it smells more like paint thinner…and it is pretty strong.
Well I unfold the bed and wait 24-36 hrs for it to completely grow. The smell goes away after a few days and the bed grows to its full 12" thick size. For those of you that do not know the mattress is 12" thick, 9" of regular foam, and 3" of high density heat sensitive memory foam. It is then covered in a removable cover.
Now for the best part…the sleep. The bed is amazing, better than any bed I have ever slept on, it is firm yet soft and gives just enough support but had enough give in it to not make your neck or back hurt when you wake up. I also bought a Novaform memory foam pillow for 22 Canadian and the thing is equally brilliant. If you cannot buy the bed, do yourself a favor and go to costco and buy the pillows…they are great.
Overall the Novaform bed gets a solid 9 rating and probably a 10 for value, at least compared to other memory foam mattresses. I would be careful of the stink of the mattress and would not recommend getting it in the winter…wait until you can air the room out for a few days…the smell was STRONG, but it goes away and the sleep that you get is more than enough to make up for the smell.
Another sweet feature is that if your partner gets up in the middle of the night, you sleep right through it. It is simple amazing. Do yourself a favor and go get one of these "space age" Novaform heat sensitive memory foam mattress at costco.
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We bought a 21/2inch novaform from costco and it didnt open up around the edges after 3 days so we took it back and got another one. We opend it up acordenly to the instucktion its been laying flat for four days now and its worse than the first one was . It still has about 2" around of the edge of the entirer foam mattress that hasn't filled in yet. What sould we do?
My parent's have the identical problem. They returned their first 2 and a half inch novaform from Costco for a second, and the second has the same problem (doesn't fill in around the edges).
Seems like the 2 and a half inch Novaform mattress toppers from Costco are all defective.
The regular mattresses seem like a great product, but wouldn't recommend buying the topper from Costco.
I am still wheezing and coughing from the smell. I don't think it goes away
you just get used it.
Hi!
I have the same problems with the 2 1/2 inch novaform! My parents bought two of them and me one and they do no fill on the edge!
My Costco(Grand Rapids, MI)had pulled all the toppers off the floor and didn't have them back for a week or so. They said they had been returned by request of the manufacturer because of defects. Return to Costco–they should make it right.
Hi thanks for the info on the 12 inch thick foam beds from costco Anybody else have any comments on them They sound like a great deal I have a twin tempurpidic 8 each it's great but need a bigger bed Way to much money to dish out for them
I don't know about the matttress, but I got a topper from there and had to return it. It was vacuum packed. The instructions said it would take a few days to open to it's original shape, but after almost two weeks it was still not back to normal. I ended up buying a 10" matress from RestOnClouds and LOVE it. It has helped my back pain so much. They have toppers too, but I decided it was time for a new mattress anyway. Memory foam is the way to go!
I bought the memory foam topper and was a bit chagrined that I could not use it the first night, as it said it needed 24-72 hours to expand. It was completely filled out by the next day, and the stink factor was bearable.. it is awesome product, no morning back aches! I do feel bad for the guy next to me who had to lug the heavy full size memory mattress he bought home, only to find that it takes a few days to expand, and the stink factor.. well, it must have been overpowering.. your stories made me think of this guy and it made me laugh out loud to think of what he went through!
I bought the king mattress from costco.com and lugged it up the stairs (125lb). I had to roll it up in the vacuum sealed bag. After carefully opening the seal, I let it expand. I also removed the covers (there are two layers). However, I saw four holes on the memory foam, they look like manufacturing defects. They are not large but still disconcerting. Also, the mattress is not perfectly flat. The memory foam is bent is all four edges. I don't think it will return to shape since it has been expanding for about 4 days now. Also the glue between the memory foam layer and the traditional foam layer is not strong. They are already separating. Are these defects typical for this mattress? Should I return this and order another one.
You might want to, it sounds like you got a bum one. I have never opened mine up to look at it however…so I may be shocked if I do!
I have been extremely happy with my full size mattress and would totally buy another memory foam mattress over an air or spring mattress in the future. This has been my first one, and I am very happy with it.
I am looking into buying a queen memory mattress from costco, but I notice in the online add that it does not come with a box spring. Does it need to have one for most beds? We just bought a four poster bed on sale at Bombay Company and this is my first time purchasing a mattress.
No, you do not need a box spring. Even the floor is okay, As long as you have a slat-base (platform base) you should be fine.
can you put the mattress on a set of king sized box springs?
I am sure that you could, but there is no need to. I do not think it would change the performance of the mattress if you did place it on a boxspring, unless the condition of the boxspring was poor.
I bought a Dormia brand memory foam mattress, king size. Big box, shocking smell for two days, but after that, it has been perfect! No more back pains. Only nine inches thick, so fitted sheets work well on it. I use the old box spring from my coil mattress. I paid half what Tempur Pedic costs and had great service on the phone. They financed the purchase at 0% for a year. Now I need a queen-size, and I'll buy it from them.
I just bought a king size Novaform from costco and unwrapped it last night. I was prepared for a horrible, poisonous vapor because I have researched the product and read other's reports of the smell, but nothing. Not even a hint of any scent whatsoever unless I pout my face directly on the mattress, and even then it was just a sort of new-clothes smell. It seems as if it is nearly done decompressing after only about 14 hours. I plan to sleep on it tonight. I wonder how you can tell when it is finished expanding, other than eyeballing it, and does it mess it up if you sleep on it before it's finished? Anyone know? I called sleep innovations using the number on their website but (eerily) no one answered. Not even voice mail.
it's hard to find the opinion about the Novaform mattress but the topper. How is the mattress? Temper Pedic carries several versions and I wonder where the Novaform Elite mattress fit into. Does anyone experienced sagging in the middle of the bed? I wonder the durability of the bed.
Just unwrapped my Novaform Queen size 12 inch mattress. I cannot smell any odor that is noticable.
do you recycle the heavy duty plastic top and bottom frame with wheels? It seems like such a waste…..couldn't you use them over to sell another mattress?
And, I love my mattress…..I sleep much more comfortably and it doesn't slope down since my boyfriend weighs much more than I do….
Does anyone know what this mattress will do over time? Will it start sagging, ripping, falling apart or does it stay the way it is?
Thanks
We were thinking of buying the novaform memory foam mattress for our cottage but we are concerned about it being temperature sensitive. Our cottage is not winterized so it would spend the winter in a below zero temperature. Would this damage it do you think?
We just bought a queen size mattress this weekend. We also had to lug it upstairs but once we opened up the box it was smooth sailing from there. It expanded within 24 hours with no problems. It does have a slight odor, but nothing we can't deal with. We purchased a platform bed to put it on, but I will tell you that I emailed Sleep Inovations and they got back to me right away letting me know it can be used on a floor, platform, slats or box spring.
I will also say that I noticed my husband sleeping on his right side last night and not snoring like he normally does. I'm hoping it's because of the mattress.
I've been emailing w/ a Cosco customer services rep. She advised that it might be smarter to buy their Novaform mattress online, rather than in a Costco store. If you're not happy with the mattress, Costco will pick it up at no charge. If you buy at the store, you are responsible for returning it to the store.
How are they for threesomes?
We just opened the box with our Novaform queen size mattress, expecting the worst, in terms of smell, and were pleasantly surprised. Very little odour, if any, and it fully expanded within 12-14 hours. However, my wife any I both had a very unrestful sleep the first night. I chalked it up to sleeping on a new mattress, but my wife pointed out that she felt the mattress made her feel unbearably hot. The second night, I felt the same way. Has anyone else had this experience? Do we need the mattress topper as well to avoid this?
After quite a few research, I finally decided to bought the 12" matress from costco.
When I opened the package, I actually didn't smell anything unless I stick my nose on the matress, it wasn't pleasant, but it is not that bad either. It seem to me that they fix the smell issue for this year. (since if you check, the reviews from 05 have the smell issue and the ones from 06 don't)
It says the bed may need 24~72 hours to completely decompress, but I find it decompressed just in few hours. I am going to wait for a day to really sleep on it for a whole night. But I did took a short nap on it after I find it pretty much decompressed (it's just hard to resist)
The bed is amazing. The memory foam is high quality and the conventional foam underneth is very solid. You can tell it is high density foam overall. I have to say that this matress is as comfortable as the expensive tempur-pedic memory foam matress (the ones in Brookstone) And for the price, is well worth it. Believe me, you don't wanna get up in the morning if you sleep in one of this.
I bought the Novaform queen mattress at Costco in 2004 and I love it. No more back pain and you can't feel your partner or pooches move at all. The smell while sleeping on it was really bad for about a month. From the sound of things, they got that problem fixed. I also sweated buckets the first couple of nights until I realized I didn't need my flannel jammies and sheet-blanket-comforter anymore. Now I sleep nude with a minimal cover. Buying it online so if you don't like it they will pick it up sounds really smart because this thing would be a bear to get back to the store. I just wish Costco would sell sheets to fit this thing. BTW, I use the rolling box it came in as a garbage can in my basement!
Hey. We are setting up our Queen Topper Elite from Costco. I have a question. Should we leave it out of the matteress cover that comes with the 1 1/2 fiber fill while it expands or would it be easier to put it in the cover and then let it expand?
We love these things. Have only slept in a camper on a 1 1/2 inch one at my sisters. This was a great gift for my wifes birthday…
Look forward to your comments and opinions.
Tim and Susan
I am about ready to pull the trigger on a queen size novaform from costco… Our warehouse is a ways away so we get there maybe once a month but don't they carry an 8" version as well? I thought I remember seeing it but wanted to be sure. I'll call the store tomorrow as well but all the stores carry different stuff.
Has anyone seen an 8" version of the novaform mattress??
Thanks very much!
Jay
I'm considering buying the queen size novaform mattress. However, I'm very concerned about any heat issues as I'm moving into a hot top floor apt. At least two comments mentioned heat issues. What is your experience as far as extra heat is concerned? Costco has a Novaform Cool Wave mattress onsale (online) for just 10 dollars more than the original. Maybe this is the way to go. Any comments about the heat issue appreciated. BTW, Jay, didnt see an 8" version online but that doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
I do not think the heat is that bad, but maybe I am used to it?
I asked a friend that stayed over and she did not really notice any extra heat from it.
For the $10 more, it seems like you may as well go with that? I know nothing about the cool wave version.
Sorry I could not be of more help.
After own the queen size matress for a month, I have to say isn't a moment that I'm not satisify with this bed. This Bed is simply amazing, there is no heat issue or anything. It does feel more firm when the room is cooler, and it'll get softer as you lay on it and your body heat will soften it. I think this bed worth every penny that I spent. I wake up everyday feeling great and looking forward to go to bed everyday now.
Thanks for replies re:heat. Think I'm gonna go for it!
Wow! Seems like the matress topper is a slow riser. Ours has been laying for a week and the edges are still not filled out. Will they ever? Should I take it back? Did some fill out over time?
I bought the King "Cool Wave" mattress from Costco. So far it seems to be a great mattress. It was shipped by UPS and weighs over 125 pounds. When it was delivered, the box had been compromised and was re-strapped by UPS. When you remove the mattress from the box it hardly looks like a mattress since it is compressed to fit in the box. There are 2 air tight bags to cut through. Cutting through the bags was kinda fun. Once you cut through the second bag the mattress immediately starts to expand. It's fast too. I'd say within 10 minutes most of the expansion happened. I think the manufacturer made some improvements to the mattress. Needless to say you really need to plan out where you unpack the matress. Once it expands it is very hard to move so plan ahead. Note that the mattress did not smell as bad as I thought it would. Some pads we have had stunk for days and were unuable. Also, the manufacturer says it has to be on a solid surface so no box springs should be used. Instead, I built a plywood platform/base which cost about $50 total. Again, the mattress seems to be great and made very well. So far we are very happy with it and would highly recommend it.
Chris, how did you go about building the plywood base for the nova foam mattress?
We are about to spring for the Queen Cool Wave, but we have a concern about our current bed frame, which has wooden slats. Is it important to place a flat smooth surface above the slats underneath this type of foam mattress? A couple of posters above imply that the foam mattress directly on the slats would be OK. I guess the concern is about foam squeezing through the slats and becoming deformed over time. Anyone have problems withthis mattress directly on slats?
Guy
Guy,
My engineering mind tells me you'll extend the life of the matress by placing it on a flat surface. That will reduce the stresses to only compression, which is what a matress is designed to handle.
I have a platform bed with a conventional matress and I cut two sheets of "finished face" 3/8 plywood and placed them over the bed slats. The plywood acts as the flat surface. The finished face is just to reduce splinters.
The flat surface prevents twisting stresses (moments) on the springs and spring frames.
I'm thinking about a foam matress and I plan to leave the plywood inplace–spanning the slats. Without the plywood, I envision a sort of tension stress on the foam that think could tear it.
Marco
I have the original cal king and was very happy with it. Best sleet ever. Only problem is I bought it in the winter and it was fine. Now we are in the summer heat and my wife and I feel hot to sleep on it.
So I bought the cool wave to compare since we needed another bed (same size) and it feels cooler but the firmness is different (softer feel) and it doesn't seem as flat as the original one. It sort of bows from head to toe and it has had 5 days to expand. Anyone else notice this?
I will try to call novaform to discuss.
This is good info to compare our experiences.
I am overall very satisfied with the comfort and value of this product.
I'm just about to buy a memory foam mattress from Costco but I haven't decided between the Coolwave or the standard edition. Considering the higher price, is it worth it to pay more for the Coolwave version or stay with the standard edition?
I am on my 6th King Novaform Naturals memory foam topper from Costco! I had to return 5 of them because they would not expand fully. The edges were still pancake flat after several days. There is hope, though, because I opened the sixth topper and–you won't believe this–it was NOT vacuum packed with all the air sucked out of the package like the other 5! It had just enough air sucked out to fit into the box, as it should be. It was NOT pancake flat around the edges.Yay! To my joy, within minutes of breaking the vacuum seal, it expanded fully. BUT that is not the end of the story. Now just 3 weeks later, I noticed a depression in the foam where I sleep. I opened the zippered cover to let the air circulate in the hope it would puff up again. But I couldn't believe my eyes—here and there all over the surface of the foam pad were CRACKS! Fissures! I pushed down on the foam in the area of the crack, and it continued to crack! More cracks spread out from the original crack. Now the pad resembles the Grand Canyon! Well, slight exaggeration, but hopefully you get my point. It has deep crevices all over the surface! I am so frustrated with this product! I had great hopes for this pad because it was not tightly vacumm packed, and it unfolded extremely easily. I am thinking of giving up on Novaform and trying Healthy Foundations. Anyone have better luck with that one?
I read that most memory foam products start to loose their elasticity(do not come back to full shape) after 12-15 years, (wich is still a long time) and also read that Tempur products can last up to 25-30 years, wich could justify the price (they use a higher density foam) but i still think I will go for the Novaform.
Thanks.
Yeha, I am torn about whether to go with the Cool Wave or the regular Novaforn Elite Mattress–Which one is closer to feeling like the Tempur-Pedic? Is it true (as someone mentioned)that the cool wave feels softer? If that is true, does it give the same support?
I thought I would leave my initial review on the
Novaform Cool Wave King size matress I just bought from Costco online. I decided to buy it mainly because I was concerned about getting another inner spring matress. The one I replaced only lasted comfortably for 4 years and it wasn't exactly a cheap bed. I also was impressed by Costco's price, which I paid $810.00 total including S&H (that was with a $150 off discount they recently had)which was a great deal compared to the Tempur brand or a Sleep number bed. I read the reviews on this site and others and considering the density of the foam, which I believe is 5lbs, I made the investment. First off, and no fault to Costco, UPS "lost" my shipment. I don't think they care too much for delivering oversized boxes and once they found it the driver wasn't happy about dragging the 145lb box out of his truck. So my advice is to stay on top of shipping company. Once I set the box up in my bedroom I followed the instructions for opening it but the inner vacuum sealed bag was heat sealed to the outer so it ripped when I cut open the packed. That made it impossible to slide out the matress because it had begun to deflate. It was easy enough to get around that by cutting the entire bag open along the gap where the matress was folded. But when the matress sprung to life out of the bag it ended up upside down and it was quite an effort to turn a 145 lb king sized beast with no inner skeleton over. Also, there was a slight smell, nothing too bad, and it went away in a couple of days. Ok, now for the sleep part of the review. First off, my wife and I also bought the Novaform pillows, which I do like aalthough at times they can be overly firm. We have the bed setup on the floor right now since we replaced a queen matress and couldn't use that box spring. If we keep the bed we will probably get an Ikea bed frame. Slepping of the bed is different. The matress feels top quality, it's very dense and more on the firm side. I do not get any heat issues and I am one to over heat easily. When you first lay down on the bed you do sort of sink in a bit, but slowly. You feel the bed providing support. In some ways this is what becomes uncomfortable to me. I do have some lower back pain and I feel my heavier parts (rear end) sinking in further than my lighter parts (legs, back). As you sink in you feel an outward pressure against your areas closest to you heavier body parts. In my instance my lower back. I usually start on my back and then switch to my side in themiddle of the night and I notice a delay in the bed adjusting to my new position so it gets uncomfortable waiting for that softness feeling so I end up tossing and turning a bit. I am 6' and about 200lbs, my wife is 5'2 and 110 lbs…she doesn't have any problems with the bed and says she sleeps better. I initially felt good about the bed, waking up in the morning not sore but a week into it I am tossing and turn more and more. So my plan of action is to get a pillowtop matress pad or feather bed and possibly go back to regular pillows and if that doesn't work then I might just get another inner spring matress and deal with replacing it every 4 years. I hope this review helps any potential shoppers.
I also recently purchased a Novaform CoolWave Memory Foam mattress from Costco Online. It was kind of annoying that I had to contact Costco to get the tracking number only to find that UPS was on their third and final attempt to deliver the mattress. You have to sign for it, which I suppose makes sense, but for households that are empty during a typical work day it can be tricky trying to coordinate. But you probably only care about the mattress, so I'll get on with it.
First of all, I'm don't have any major back issues or anything else to comment on, just my own preferences. I switched because my old mattress (Kingsdown — avoid) had begun sagging in the middle and there was very little mid/lower back support. I really like the support the Novaform provides, and I agree it is more on the firm side if anything, but not at all too firm. Let's say 6 or 7 out of 10, 10 being the firmest. I'm 6'1" 170lbs. and I haven't had any of the problems described by JG. The mattress doesn't take long to form after I shift positions, and in fact, I find myself shifting less. I used to sleep on my side a lot, but I find myself waking up on my back, and often that's how I fall asleep now. I somewhat agree with JG that you can feel pressure in certain parts, but my take on that is the poor posture I've developed from sleeping on subpar mattresses is being corrected. A mattress is something that we spend a lot of time on, so we're very sensitive to even the slightest change. I'm going to give it some time before jumping to any conclusions.
I haven't had any heat issues either, and that is something that I am very aware of when sleeping. I noticed a smell, like others have said, if I put my face right up to the mattress, and even then it is not unpleasant.
The mattress does take at least a full 24 hours to completely fill out. I opened it one night and slept on it the next, even though it probably could've used a little more time.
If you are thinking about buying it, I'd say definitely go for it. I've had about a week of very comfortable sleep on the mattress and am very glad I went ahead with it. Having the reassurance of Costco's return policy seals the deal. If you aren't happy, send it back. If the bottom foam "breaks down" like a true Tempurpedic supporter will tell you, send it back. Heat and low quality materials are what Tempurpedic attempts to retain as the disadvantage of their competitors, neither of which are present in this mattress — if you're on the market for a mattress, and are considering this one, get it.
Forgot to mention — $600 total delivered right to the door for a queen size … can't beat that.
I plan to buy a king size at costco asap! However I have 4 children…and even with mattress covers, I find you can't control the once in a while "pee" or "being sick" … I was just wondering: From those that have had it for a while…how do you clean a memory foam mattress???? and does it clean well? What type of cover can I use, not to ruin the whole effect?
I placed an order for the Queen sized mattress from Costco–should arrive in a couple of days. I just had a quick question about sheets. Do people bother with sheets for the Novafoam Mattress or is the cover that it comes with good enough?
I think you would want to use sheets… otherwise you would have to wash the cover which I am assuming would wear out with time, and is probably a pain to remove.
You need pretty "deep pocket" sheets for the mattress as it is very thick.
Initially I had planned on buying sheets…but then, I came across someone online saying that sheets defeat the purpose of the MEMORY FOAM because it takes away from the feel of the foam. I have my doubts but I wanted input, thanks!
Can anyone comment on how it "feels" compared to the Tempur-Pedic? I think I am going with the Cool Wave–I called Sleep innovations and the rep said the Cool Wave was a newer mattress,and is the new flagship–may as well go with it–Also the Cool Wave Memory Foam at the top is a bit softer so the mattress will have a softer feel.
Don, you said you had both the original and the cool wave. Also, that the cool wave was softer and seemed slightly bowed. Can you give a followup – is the cool wave still bowed and which do you prefer?
I bought a CalKing CoolWave mattress from Costco. It's been just over a week, and I really enjoy it. My BeautyRest is 20 years old. It's still in pretty good shape, but at my age (67), I'm finding that I prefer the softer feel of the CoolWave. At the same time, it seems to provide much better support. (The BeautyRest does show some signs of sagging.)
I put it on my old box springs but would like to build a plywood platform for it. Like TY, I'm hoping that Chris will share some construction tips with us.
To answer the common question here, I would get sheets, I don't think the mattress cover is meant to be slept on. I got a nice set of 600TC sheets from Linens 'N Things and they feel really good on the mattress.
As for the question about kids and cleaning the mattress I don't know how to clean it, but I don't think it is a bridge that you want to cross. I've had waterproof mattress liners before to protect mattresses from sweat and dirt, and each time I got rid of them after about a week because the surface underneath you (if waterproof) obviously won't breathe at all and will make you uncomfortably hot.
So the catch 22 is, leave your mattress unprotected, or make it much more uncomfortable. I don't know what the right choice is here, but I can imagine getting urine out of a memory foam mattress will be an impossible chore. That might be a question for NovaForm's customer service.
Hope that helps.
Also, extremely deep pocket sheets are not necessary. I didn't shop around for anything in particular and mine worked out fine, plus most sheet now are designed to accomodate deeper mattresses.
For those wondering about bed construction, from what I've seen with mine, if you have a slatted frame, the slats should be now more than a couple inches spart or the foam on the bottom will start to poke through. My old box spring mattress was on a frame supported by only 3 slats which would not be an option for this mattress.
I actually switched the plywood for my bed frame from close-spaced slats because two pieces of plywood only cost me $30 at Lowe's and it will probably preserve that mattress better.
To summarize, if you are constructing a bed frame the surface that the mattress actually rests on should either be plywood or slats with no more than a couple of inches in between slats. If you need construction advice beyond that, I'm not a carpenter and would recommend consulting one
Has anyone here who owns one of these ever experienced back stiffness with these mattresses? Some Temur-Pedic owners experience stiffnes inback and shoulders because you do not move at all during the night–you kind of stay in one place-which is good in the sense that there is less tossing/tirning, but some people do report stiffness due to this–
"Chris, how did you go about building the plywood base for the nova foam mattress?"
I originally used 2×4s and 1/2 inch plywood. Total cost was about $50. The 2×4s we used to elevate the plywood off the metal fram. We have since purchased another bed frame and now only use the plywood minus the 2×4s.
The bed itself has been great. Worth every penny. My wife is pregant and neither of us feel the other get out of bed. I also have noticed that I sleep throughout the night without moving much.
Chris, thank you for your frame comments. I talked with a carpenter today who suggested 3/4 inch plywood with about 2 feet spacing on the 2×4s.
JG, I'm aware of still moving around during the night. Perhaps the cats trigger that.
I feel less stiffness in all parts of my body. It hasn't been a dramatic change for me. Perhaps a new conventional mattress would have had the same effect.
Overall, I really like the Novaform. We seniors tend to be more sensitive to pressure. It feels fairly soft, but completely supportive. I prefer the feel to the "springy" feel of a conventional mattress.
Comment to SG
I returned the cool wave novaform back to costco as we decided we preferred the feel of the original novaform. To eliminate the heat problem we placed a matress pad on the mattress for the hot summer months and this seemed to help with the hot feel. I imagine the cool wave would have eventually flattened out but it just didn't feel as comfortable to us as it was just too soft. We love the original and hope they continue to make it as we now have 3 of them.
Don
Comment to SG
I returned the cool wave novaform back to costco as we decided we preferred the feel of the original novaform. To eliminate the heat problem we placed a matress pad on the mattress for the hot summer months and this seemed to help with the hot feel. I imagine the cool wave would have eventually flattened out but it just didn't feel as comfortable to us as it was just too soft. We love the original and hope they continue to make it as we now have 3 of them.
Don
I also purchased a queen size coolwave mattress at the recently passed sale price and this baby is awesome. Not hot at all and as strange as it sounds, it is soft yet firm all at once. Very supportive yet still very comfortable as I prefer a soft mattress.
I put a paper thin waterproof mattress pad on it to ensure no sweat gets through and it doesn't affect comfort one bit.
Also decided to try out the novaform 4" foam/microfiber topper and am now on the second one as i've had the same problem as mentioned above, these things simply don't expand well at all.
Coolwave mattress is great, the toppers are super comfortable but just don't seem to be up to standard by any stretch
I am considering the cool wave novaform king mattress from costco. It costs less in the store than online which confuses me. my issue is unique as i must ship it to florida and from there it will get shipped to jamaica at a $$cost since it weighs over 100lbs. then, i must pay $$duty. so it is a pricey purchase ultimately. If it doesn't open up, seems like i am taking a big chance! If i can get it back to florida if it fails, it is a huge piece of foam….wonder how it can be returned. how did you guys return it once it is inflated? this sounds like a rhetorical question, but any thoughts on taking this chance with the mattress? sounds like the topper is more problematic than the mattress. i have back problems, so this seems like it could be the answer. also, i am concerned about heat and sweat in a tropical climate. any thoughts?
SEA,
From what I've heard, if you are unsatisfied with an in-store purchase, Costco will refund your money after you return it to the store. For online purchases, they will come to the delivery address, pick it up, and refund your money. I don't know if this policy is different for mattresses or not, but it sounds like if you were unhappy, you would be responsible for getting the mattress back to the nearest Costco warehouse yourself.
If it's something that you plan on going through with, I would see if they will match the cheaper store price for an online purchase so that if you need to return it, they will at least pick it up for you from the delivery address in Florida.
Hope that helps.
Re toppers – I agree with everyone, the edges of the toppers are slow to decompress. However I gently rolled the edges to soften the foam. It expanded perfectly!!! If we are comfortable with the King size topper, we are definately getting the mattress.
Everyone who is having problems with heat should try a wool mattress protector. This natural material will feel cool in the summer and warm in the winter and protect the mattress against sweat. Also, to keep the feel of the memory foam, try 100% cotton JERSEY sheets. They are more stretchy and contour with the mattress better. Good Luck!
Any side sleepers out there wake up with mid-back pain? We just got our Novaform Coolwave, and it seems really firm.
I am a side sleeper, and like my question hints at, I wake up with a hurting back about 5 or 6 hours into the night's sleep.
Heh, I'm considering buying a mattress topper to make it a little more cushy.
Also, is it really true that if you ordered the bed from costco.com, they will come pick it up if you want to return it?
Carlos
Just noticed that Costco no longer carries Novaform Cool Wave mattress. Instead, Costco now has Novaform ComfortLuxe with higher density mid-layer memory foams. Has anyone tried or have information on this particular mattress? Namely, is it firmer than Cool Wave?
Thanks…
I noticed that they carry the NovaForm Full size – I am interested in the confortluxe memory if anyone has any feedback.
Thanks.
Um, sort of a weird question but I haven't seen anyone mention it. Are activities on the bed any different? Does it affect sex in a negative way? I'm serious about this question, not trying to be stupid.
Thanks!
I'm starting to wonder abouth the durability of this memory foam. I bought the Novaform pillow about a year ago at Costco. I also red many good reviews on memory foam mattresses and was thinking about buying one. But I recently noticed that my pillow had lost most of its memory properties.
I'm wandering now if I just got a bad one or if it is a "built-in" feature of this kind of foam. I did some research today and it seems that it is pretty common for memory foam to lose it's properties, even for the big names like Tempur (found many comments on epinion about problems after 2-3 years with Tempur-Pedic, see http://www.epinions.com/Tempur-Pedic_Swedish_Mattress/display_~reviews).
I'm now having some serious second toughts about spending hundreds of dollars for a mattress that would last only 2-3 years.
So anyone has any good long term experience about the durability of memory foam ?
Stefanie–I was wondering the same thing, but was afraid to ask–
Well, I'm definetely NOT buying it until I get some comments on this! Im a single girl and sex is still important to me.
Stefanie and JG… I will answer this one for you. Sex on a Memory Foam Mattress:
Before bought one of these I was also wondering how it was, but figured my sleep and back were more important than my sex life… anyhow I have used a couple times for non sleep activities (c;
First off it is quiet and absorbs impact a bit better than a regular bed, and probably does not have as much bounce to it as a regular mattress either… however sex can still be good on it and it is easy on your knees.
I am guessing for the average user it should be fine… however if you require extra bounce for your activities it may be lacking?
What exactly was your concern? I think before I bought mine I was thinking the other person would be sunk down below the "access" level, but this is not the case.
I have tried numerous positions ranging from missionary, to doggy to reverse cowgirl and it seems fine for any. The only real issue I have is the fact that it is now directly on my floor rather than on a bedframe, so floor to bed positions are a few feet off…
If you have any specific postion wise questions let me know… I can shoot an email off and get a ladies opinion as well?
I guess my main concern would be the "quick sand factor"–meaning you just sink in, and there is no support or resistance–but your endorsement sounds pretty good–I would also like to know what a women's perspective is as well so please do fire off that Email. The new "ComfortLuxe" looks amazing, BTW.
Thanks!
yeah i'm female so i dont care about the knees part…that's the guy's problem! lol. just wasnt sure if there'd be good leverage and bounce i guess.
i think i better just buy a regular mattress. hard to decide on the foam when i cant test it. also, i live by myself so i'd have to carry and unpack myself and i dont have that much ambition.
Oh there is plenty of leverage… I would maybe even say more leverage than a traditional matress, since your knees sink in a bit… for that it is excellent.
As far as bounce goes, I think it is fine for that as well, just less bouncy than a spring mattress.
Well, someone has to say it, and I elect myself. Stefanie … you can test on my mattress any time
Way to be a creep Kane…
lol, uh yeah. wait…send me a dossier and we'll see! haha
Hehe, btw, I think it's actually better for non-sleep activities because you sink less compared to regular mattresses. The dossier is in the mail.
…And you're the one who brought up reverse cowgirl, Werty.
Darn!! Went to finally buy the Queen Coolmax one and it's sold out!
Try ordering it online instead
No Coolwaves on the website, just the original and the ComfortLuxe…
Original:
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11025931&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&N=4013712&Mo=1&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&topnav=
Comfortluxe:
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11170037&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&N=4013712&Mo=1&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&topnav=
I think the comfortluxe is the same as acoolwave:
"The first layer of Cool Waveâ„¢ Memory Foam complements the breathable quilted cover by dispersing your natural body heat to keep you cool and comfortable throughout the night. The next two layers of premium memory foam combine to create superior customized comfort, pressure relief and support."
I don't think it is, plus it's significantly more expensive (~$300)
it's got an extra layer and a better layer but i think it is meant to replace the cool max. it's is about $300 more for the Queen. today i caved and bought a regular Simmons mattress. the air mattress i had been sleeping on was getting old. my boss wanted me to give him a ride home from work–at 2pm!!–so i stopped by the store on my way home and just bought it!! it's already been delivered so no foam mattress for me. maybe next time. or maybe i'll have to try someone else's out
I have two 2" Novaform toppers on top of 3" regular bed foam on top of Simmons Beautyrest mattress and box springs. It is heavenly to sleep on! I suffer from fibromyalgia plus body inflammation and cannot sleep on a firm mattress.
Heat is a problem for me, so I put a good quality quilted cotton fitted bed pad on all the foam. It is cooler and did not interfer with the heat sensitive memory foam. I tried it with and without the mattress pad, not enough difference to suffer getting too hot. However, I do not live in a real cold climate, remains moderate most of the time, hot in the summer and very mild winters.
Had thought about purchasing the memory foam mattress but after reading others comments I do believe my combination is best for me.
Misty
Stefanie,
You got a Simmons! Caving would have been buying a Novaform. Getting the Simmons is called "settling". Now you really will have to try one out to see what you're missing.
Yeah, I need to find one to try. Problem is you don't run across them in hotels ever. Until this year I traveled over 70,000 miles a year and don't think I ever came across one. It would be a good way to try one out though. Like renting a car you're thinking of buying. Guess I'll have to skank around until I come across one…haha kidding!
Are you traveling from Cali to NJ 20 times per year? I probably travel 20,000/year (outside of standard work commute) and I can't imagine doing more than 3 times that.
Go to a Sleepy's or something and try out a Tempurpedic. I guess it's too late at this point anyway, but you'll see that they would be excellent for "activities".
i bought the comfortluxe at costco.com, it was relatively easy, when it arrived it was sort of rolled up and folded. so when we undid it, and let it grow , i noticed one corner did not seem to fill, so i unzipped the cover to see what was going on, and i saw a tear in the middle of the memory foam. costco is awesome, so im not worried about the return, but i ordered the original instead, and when that arrives i will return this one, i love sleeping on it. but according to sleep inovations, it is firmer than the original. but i decided on the original because this never really did grow into a good square, that corner still isnt right. but i love the mattress. i read some reviews about the temperpedic, and my understanding is that they only make it about three years before that inner egg crate like foam gives and you get a sort of sink spot. and i dont think temper pedic is very good at standing behind there product, this mattress does not have the inner eggcrate part that the temperpedic has, so for 500 dollars if i get seven good years out of it, ill be happy. ill let you know how the regular one is when i get it.
Well, I was living in Anchorage and traveling within the state, to Austin, to Wash DC, to Florida, Seattle, and then overseas once or twice/year. I moved to Austin about 2 weeks ago and will probably just travel to like Dallas a bunch, and some Waco and San Antonio maybe. So….I won't be sleeping on many hotel beds now unless they are local of course.
Well, everyone enjoy your foam bed. Keep this thread alive for a few years Werty so we can all see how the beds are holding up.
WE ordered the novaform coolwave 2 weeks ago – it finally arrived – we opened the package – smells a little like milk – not too strong – we were very excited about it, since our simmons beautyrest ($1200) died after 4 years (actually, for my aching back, it died after 2.5 years…)- so we let it inflate for >24 hours and finally finally slept on it. I was so disappointed. The edges have no support, so I have to sleep a good 12 inches from the edge – thats ok I guess, because my husband did too, so we were closer together! However, if you lay too close to the edge, you feel like you might roll off. I had to use the toilet in the middle of the night, and almost fell off the bed trying to get into it because it isn't so firm on the edges (by definition, it isn't as firm as the middle, because it doesn't have as much foam surrounding it) – well I got back in and slept again. Well, it is comfortable, but I woke up with a hip-ache. It hurts at the joint where the femur goes into the pelvic bone. I tried not to worry about it, and tried again last night. Same thing. Except today it is 4 hours after waking, and my back and hips still seriously hurt. Now, I won't say I don't have back issues – I have since doing gymnastics when I was a kid – and now I'm 39 – but this is ridiculous. I'm not old! I am going to spend tonight on the couch. My husband is so disappointed. He loves this thing, he is very comfortable, and didn't notice that he was avoiding the edge. He has no issues with his 33 year old body. I hate to disappoint him, but I can't live with this purchase. At least the Simmons didn't actively hurt me for about a year. I will go to my chiropractor on Monday, and then see how it goes in this bed. I think that if you have a good back you will enjoy this bed.
By the way, if you haven't notice this overwhelming squish on the sides, let me know, we might try to replace this one first.
Michelle, I feel like I am less likely to fall off the side of this bed than with a traditional mattress… I can bend my legs and have my knees hanging off and I feel totally safe not liek I will fall off… I have the original though, so maybe the density of the foam is different.
As far as back pain and things like that go, a girl I am seeing now says she hates the mattress, she complains of back pain and things like that from it, not to mention the heat problem… I do not notice any of it and love it… so who knows?
What is nova foam doing about all these corners that does not open?????????
Jane Aston
Does any one know how it supports you and feels to your back and sides of you are an overweight person?
Any more folks have comments on the new NovaForm Comfortluxe mattress? They are onsale for $150 off until 10/15/2006 at costco online.
Thanks,
Justin
I bought a king novaform 12" last January 2006 and have loved it ever since. Yes it smelled and I needed to air out the room for a day or two but it goes away and I tell you the sleep that I get on this bed is amazing. I researched like crazy prior to purchase, even emailed the company to make sure the foam density was comaparible to that of temperpedic and the like,, here is the email that I recieved with some info
Thank you for your inquiry regarding your interest in the Novaform
Mattress. The Novaform Mattress is 12 inches, which consists of a 3"
visco elastic memory foam top layer with a 4lb density, and a 9"
Polyurethane Foam Core with a 2lb density. The mattress is designed to
surround your pressure points for relief providing you with a restful
nights sleep. The mattress is designed to always return to its original
shape maintaining its firmness. The Novaform is resistant to mold and
mildew, it's durable, and long lasting. The mattress comes with a
removable cover that is machine washable.
The mattress contains a 10 year limited warranty, which covers
normal wear and tear of the mattress. If your mattress fails to provide
you with normal wear for 10 years it will be replaced. Per our warranty
please hold on to the original sales receipt, as it will be required for
a replacement.
The cover to the mattress is machine washable. Please follow
the washing instructions located on the "law tag," of the cover. I
believe the washing instructions are to wash the cover in cold water on
a gently cycle and the dry on low heat which may cause the cover to take
several hours to dry. The mattress itself can only be spot washed.
Please only spot wash this mattress with mild soap and water. The
mattress can not be soaked as it is Polyurethane Foam and will only
absorb water rather than dry. This mattress can not be flipped as the
memory is located on the top 3" of the mattress. The mattress does not
need to be flipped from head to foot. If you have any further
questions please do not hesitate to contact me directly at the number
below or via email. Thank you for purchasing our product.
Best Regards,
Courtney McDonald
Sleep Innovations Inc.
187 Route 36, Suite 101
West Long Branch, NJ 07764
p: (732) 403-1034
fax: (732) 263-0900
I just bought the Novaform Elite from Costco. I've slept on it 2 nights and my body hurts! It's much firmer than I realized it would be. I'm even using a memory foam topper and it helps somewhat. But I am waking up, tossing/turning and generally not sleeping well. I'm sooo disappointed! I wanted something I could melt into and it's not happening!! ANY ideas? Thanks so much!!!
Reading all of these, just confuse me. I have bulging disc and also degenerative disc disease. My old mattress was killing my back. So went out to find a new set. I tried so many. Seemed the softer the better it felt.
I tried a Aireloom Vitajeanie deep pillow top. I laid on it in the store for over 45min. and it felt so good and did not hurt my back. Purchased it and slept pain free for a bit over 30days, then my back started to hurt very bad. I complaine about the mattress that the one side leaned in towards the center of the bed and it was harder and taller than the other side. Long story. It was exchanged, and the exchange came firmer. I could not lay on that, so complained to Sit N Sleep again. They had me contact the makers of Aireloom. I went out to their factory and help choose a more comfy top to go on the mattress. When it was delivered, it was comfy, but in a short while (1 week) it starts sagging in the middle (queen size) and I could no longer sleep on it after 1 week, because of severe pain in my back.
I decided to try out an old firm double mattress and it hurt my back and could not sleep. So bought a 1 1/2" Spa Sensations Memory Foam topper from WalMart. Well, I have been sleeping on that not too bad.
I found the Sleep Inovations queen bed at Costco and have wondered about it ever since.
I could find someone to take my mattress, and keep the boxsprings. Do any of you have the same back problems as myself, bulging disc and degenerative disc???????
I do not want to spend more money only to find that it will hurt my back………..this is so depressing not being able to sleep in my 'expensive" bed that I got.
After reading all that is said about the mattress at Costco, it makes me want one. I also read a little bit on another site where a lady put the topper on top of this mattress and was also advised by Sleep Inovations rep that it would help prolong the life of the mattress. Much cheaper to keep buying new toppers.
So my question is, do you think I can put it on top of the new boxsprings? I know a solid foundation would be the best but I am single and can't get around that easy.
No one has said they have my type back troubles, so I am just curious about it.
Hey Chloe… first off sorry to hear about your back problems. The only one I know with similar problems is my mom… she has had herniated disks I think they were.
Anyhow her and my dad are on their second sleep my numbers bed and they love the things. My dad is like 6\'4\" 250lbs and my mom is like 5\' and 100 lbs. They both get to adjust each side to whatever they want and they love the things.
Honestly If I were you I would check into all the various companies and find out which ones have 100% guarantees and things like that.
Many people have said that Costco has a no questions asked return policy, so I would say if you are wanting the novaform, order it, see how you like it and then either keep it or return it. You have nothing to loose really.
If you do better on a softer mattress or need to find one that is just right, maybe try the sleep by numbers by select comfort. You can check their website http://www.selectcomfort.com/ and look for a store and test it out in person, or stay at a radisson hotel because I guess they are switching over to them. (not the shitty one in San Jose though!)
They have a 30day return policy, but you have to pay shipping if you return it. Also if you upgrade between sizes or models they count that as your one return. I think that is pretty shady, so I get a weird feeling from them already. Anyhow here is their return policy:
http://www.selectcomfort.com/customercenter/sleep_number_bed_return_policy.cfm
Regardless let us know how the beds work out for you.
Cheers,
George
I bought the Novaform Elite from Costco three weeks ago. It is not flat. On one side it is little bit lower than another side. Is it common phenomenon that the memory foam mattress is not perfect flat?
I bought the NovaForm ComfortLuxe (although it doesn't say it the ComfortLuxe model anywhere on the box, except the invoice????) from Costco. Opened it up following the instructions, 24hrs later the center ridge (where the mattress was folded) is still there. It doesn't look like it is going to get flat and even with the rest of the mattress. Anyone has this mattress? and how was your setup experience? There was no smell, so that was good. The corners also look little droopy, they didn't form into sharp corners I was expecting, as displayed on product photos.
thanks
Okan
George, I hate the select comfort beds. I have tested them out several times, and they just are not comfy for me. But thanks for the suggestion.
Okan–
I too purchased the ComfortLuxe last week ($150 off)–haven't received it yet–Did you call Sleep Innovations? I am wondering if the problem has resolved itself yet? I did call Costco before purchasing, and they did confirm (as reported in this thread) that they will pay for return shipping, and refund the full price of the mattress + original shipping charge–now that's what I call 100% risk-free!
As for me, I hope I do not need to return it–I will report back when I receive it–oh, one other thing, How long did it take to receive? The webiste says 3-4 weeks…
Just received two coolwave novaform double beds from costco.
Unpacked it….and didn't hear any of the whooshing air sound when I unpacked it. It just kinda unfolded without the drama I had hoped for after reading other posts. It didn't seem to be vacuum packed at all.
It has absolutely no smell. There is a ridge in the middle that I hope will smooth out.
If not – gotta love the costco return policy. So I'm not too concerned about it…..yet.
Have had the novaform pillows for a couple of weeks. They are just as others reported – VERY comfortable. I don't toss and turn like I use to. They really are well worth the $20 each. If you can't get the mattress…..you really should get the pillow!
Dorothy–
Which pillows do you have? They make a few different ones…also, are they good for side sleepers?
Just bought the $675 cal-king regular jobbie at Costco Richmond, CA. Getting the sucker up 82 stairs was, well, fun. Weighs 100 lbs. Clever packaging, I must say. Wheels and all. I couldn't believe I had a Cal-king becuase sitting there on top of my box springs I could swear it was a twin. Then I snipped the bag. Whoosh. It's been airing out for three days. It does have a smell, but like vanilla. Not bad. I just didn't trust the smell and wanted it to out gas without my lungs around. Been sleeping downstairs. There are wrinkles in the first-level cover (the thicker one) that are hard to smooth out because you have to unzip the top cover first to get to it, and the zipper is on the bottom of the mattress. Hmm. Anyway, have not tried sleeping on it yet. Will report back. I did buy two kinds of pillows: the "Choices" one (mem foam on top, mcrofiber on the bottom) and the usually mem jobs. THe mem job (only avil in standard size, for some reason, which seems dumb since I have a cal-king mattress) seems not as good as the Tempurpedic ones I have tried. The neck ridge seems too high, and the foam isn't as dense or squishy or giving. But I'm sleeping ok on it. I have not tried the Choices pillow yet. I figured I would take one back after trying them both.
Am concerned that if I don't like the mattress that I cannot get it out of here. How do they get it back in the box? the Genie is out of the bottle!
We bought a queen size Cool Wave mattress from Costco in Toronto and after 48 hours is fully expanded EXCEPT for 3 corners that are still slanted. Personally I dont' think that these corners are gonna regain their shape therefore I emailed Sleeping Innovations and am awaiting on their response. I see that a lot of people here had the same problem with the corners not fully expanding.
It'll be interesting to see what the manufacturer's got to say on this…
I'll keep you guys posted.
I took delivery on a queen NovaFoam Comfortluxe mattress yesterday (purchased online from Costco)during the $150 discount period. Total cost, approx. $787, including tax. It has been expanding for about 16 hours now and I can't wait to try it out. I will post later after I have tried the mattress, but I confess, I did lie on it this afternoon for a couple of minutes, and it seems WONDERFUL!
I have just bought in Quebec Canada a Coolwave materess at cosco and it did dot inflate weel at the center the at all edges. the is a wrinkle in the bleu coolwave foam. The materess is not perfectly flat. This is the seond time that I have a problem with sleep innovations product, I bought a year ago a materess topper that did not inflate at the edges. Sleepinnovation told me that their was I defective batch.I returned it and bought a other batch and it delfated just find. I dont know… I have a bas feeling about this materess…
OK. Here's the scoop as plain as I can put it concerning the purchase I recently made (online) of a comfortluxe queen mattress. First, it didn't take 72 hours to expand, but was probably fully done at about 30 hours. It took one edge – side a little longer to expand and it wasn't a real sharp edge on either side as a traditional mattress would be, but, nonetheless, it's full and firm. Second, it's by far the most comfortable mattress I've ever slept on, barring none. Third, the support is subtle, yet great, and the bouyant foam just adjusts to the heavier parts of the body during sleep and spring back immediately upon leaving the bed in the AM. I didn't want to get up it was so comfy. Fourth, it wasn't hot as some others have experienced with earlier models. And last, and strangely enough, the best way I can describe this mattress is firm, yet soft on the joints and bones. No trouble whatsoever turning over or moving on it during the night.
A friend who visited and who purchased a king Temperpedic tried it out and could find absolutely no difference.
My advice is to go for it. You will not be sorry, and if you are displeased in any way, Costco will take it back within 30 days for a full refund. How much better does it get than that? I would purchase it online, however, as it is heavy and the UPS delivery man used his equipment to bring it right into my house. Best of luck and I hope this helps those of you who are considering this item. I couldn't be happier with mine.
How long does it take for Costco to deliver the matress? The e-mailed receipt says it takes them 3 to 4 weeks, however it seems some people get them within 10 days (unconfirmed).
I ordered one on October 15th, so far I am still waiting for it.
What ever you buy, don't buy a select comfort bed. After only nine years of sleeping on one the pump went out and it will cost 180.00 to replace. Also, mold is growing on the air chambers and foam padding. I don't really want to sink another 180.00 in a moldy bed. I am thinking about buying the novafoam since I have come to the conculsion you probely have to replace any bed about every ten years for decent support.
Ganda..I ordered a cal king NovaFoam Comfortluxe mattress on Oct 12th and still haven't heard anything yet. Also, cal king are no longer available on Costco's web site.
I ordered the cal-king comfortluxe on Oct. 5th. It sat there with a UPS tracking number in a "billing information received" state since then. I got an interesting call from Sleep Innovations the other morning. They apologized profusely for the delay, citing manufacturing issues. They wanted to resolve them before shipping out the product. It supposedly shipped out yesterday (but I didn't get a new tracking# to confirm that). In the meantime, I had re-orderd the cal-king for the regular price, after being assured by Costco customer support that they would manually credit me the difference. So, it was fun trying to undo all that… hopefully I won't see two of them at my door! This might help explain the delays others are seeing in their orders.
I ordered mine on oct.9 and got it delivered oct.27..
Well, I received my Queen ComfortLuxe yesterday. It was ordered on 10/11, and arrived at my door on 10/27.
I unpacked it myself following the directions–although I wish there was a diagram because it started decompressing with the bottom facing up–The thing is very heavy, so you may want to have someone else help you position it and set it up.
The quality seems top-notch with a very nice cover–The thing seemed to grow to almost 100% in a few hours (in about 65 degree Los Angeles weather), so I decided to sleep on it (i vcan't see it growing that much more–it looked pretty normal after 3-4 hours) At first it seemed comfortable, but much, much firmer than I thought it would be–You really do not sink in all that much (seems there is more "sink in" with the Tempurpedics I've tested), which is good in the sense that you don't get trapped in position, but to me, gave the sensation of sleeping on a sand beach because once you no longer sink in, the bed becomes very, very firm.
So initially, I do not like it, but that is strictly based on my own personal preference–I could see how someone would love it–I will give it a chance, but at this point I will most likely return it–Costco reps said (before I bought it) that they would pick it up at my door if I was not satisfied, but how that will happen, I am not sure–since I can no longer get it back in the box–I thought to ship something, it had to be put in a box.
Anyway, I'll report back in a few days, but will most likely return it.
Now it's been more thna 24 hours so maybe the bed will be softer–hopefully–
Sorry about the delay on the follow up, the center ridge went away after ~ 48 hrs, I started sleeping on it probably right around the third day. It is much firmer than expected, it certainly doesn't have the sink in sand feeling. The first few nights I was not really happy with it, but I think I am getting used to it. The heat factor is definitely bothersome, I have a mattress cover (lightly padded) on the mattress, I am not sure if that's adding anything to the heat issue or the sink/no sink issue. But one think I am sure is that I can not use my flannel sheet set on this mattress, gets too hot, and also forget the goose down comforter
In terms of the shape of the mattress, as I mentioned above the center ridge has nicely disappeared, but the corner never gained the sharp edges. I have a platform bed and on each corner, I can see the slats, mattress doesn't reach to the corner of the bed frame. Maybe it is not realistic to expect how it looks on catalogue images, what do you guys think? Can you say your NovaForm ComfortLuxe is in perfect rectangular shape with pronounced corners?
Thanks -
Okan – I've been reading this thread for a while, great information. I'm thinking about getting the NovaForm ConfortLuxe, but am worried about excessive heat during the summer months. Can you try to describe the issue you're seeing? I thought hte ConfortLuxe was supposed to have "coolwave" foam in it.
I did not find a heat issue whatsoever–Granted, it is just individual opinion, but the cool wave foam, plus the newly designed cover makes it seem preety normal to me–My issue is that the mattress was rock hard–way too firm for me–and as a result, I am returning it.
We are just about to purchase a queensize novaform from Costco…thanks for all your great comments and info – hooray for the internet. We are also relying on Costco's good return policy if it's not a good mattress for us. I'll let u know how it goes:)
Lj
Matress works well for threesomes, however we did lose a girl…
I like a really, really soft mattress. Any really soft mattress fans who also like the Novaform?
does anybody know if i can use a electric blankert (not mattress pad underneath)with the mattress? some report said it would damage the memory foam.
After finding this site very helpful, I purchased a King on-line from Costco. The bed was delivered a few weeks later. I opened and aired out in the garage but noticed very little odor. As as result of opening outside, it was heavy and challenging to get into the bedroom but opened up right away and we slept on it a day or two later.
I have found this bed comfortable albeit firm at first.
This is the site I bought one from. I am happy with it. Apparently the difference is that it is made of a 5.3 lb foam instead of a 3.4 lb foam which leads to a little bit more support and longer lifetime.
I was very happy with the costco brand bed frame I purchased. It was good looking and was easy to set up.
CDV
Four questions: How often does Costco run the $150 off promotion and when will it tun again? Are there any retail outlets where you can sit/lay on the Novaform? Our Costco doesn't have them in stock. The Costco site notes you can put the mattress on top of box springs, others say you can't/shouldn't – who's right? And finally, will regular sheets fit on a Novaform mattress? Thanks so much to all of you who've reported in — this site is very helpful!
Have requested Costco arrange return of the Cool Wave King mattress. After a 36 hour setup time We noticed one area of the mattress appeared to have considerably less foam density translating into poor support. Over 8 nights it worsened. The problem would appear to be a quality control issue at the factory.
As much as we lked the mattress we won't order another.
i got my coolwave king about a week ago, other than the smell, it was great the first few nights, now it seems to be a LOT less firm in the spot where i sleep every night and does not give the same support.
it also seems to be getting hotter with each night. its really kind of irritating b/c the side on the mattress is too hot, and the side off is too cold, but if i use more sheets i bake a lot worse all over.
the smell *seems* to be going, but i have a feeling im just getting used to it, b/c now i waking up with a strange taste in my mouth thats eerily close to the smell the mattress (i sleep on my side or back)
not to slam this mattress, as i really wanted to like it, im really just hoping to hear that maybe somebody else here noticed any of this things, and wondered if they may remedy themselves in a matter of time? (thought im doubtful)
thanks.
We bought a king size NovaForm CoolWave from Costco Home back in August, so we've had it for 3 months now. Both my husband and I love it — it is soft yet firm. When we first opened it up, it inflated to size in all areas within about 24 hours (we live in Arizona — it was really hot in August….) No odors to speak of.
When we first got it, I noticed feeling a little warmer when I slept on this mattress, so I just slept with a sheet. Now that the weather is cooler at night, I have a comforter and feel absolutely perfect.
We put it on box springs made for memory foam mattresses as we had a frame and it needs a box spring in order for the mattress to be the right height. The box springs were about $100 each and work fine below the memory foam.
The mattress does seem softer on the sides where we each sleep but when I move to the middle of the mattress, it easily adjusts to my body, unlike prior mattresses that developed valleys where our bodies lay and I would have to practically climb out of the valley to get to the middle of the bed.
All in all, I would really recommend this mattress. It's very comfortable, was easy to set up, our sheets fit it fine, the temperature of the mattress hasn't been too hot and we sleep really well.
so i decided to run a little experiment, and took the mattress cover off of the mattress a little while ago, it turns out that the main offender of heat is the mattress cover. the top layer of foam doesnt appear to hold heat at all.
i also think the cover and the sheets are also the main contributor to the remaining smell.. im airing out the cover and washing the sheets again, i'll let you all know how it turns out.
i may contact novaform to see what options there are for cooler mattress covers. any input from all of you here would be appreciated still.
since 2 posts in one day isnt enough, here is another.. i thought you all might like to see what the inside of the comfortluxe looks like when you pull back the mattress cover, it explains why ppl are having corner issues:
http://tiwilt.blogspot.com/
Rose (or anyone else), could you please tell us where you purchased the "box springs made for memory foam mattresses"?
Right now we have a traditional spring mattress set and are used to sleeping about 20 inches up from the bed frame. I'm afraid I'd feel as if I were on the floor at just 12 inches (not to mention within reach of the dog!).
Just in case anyone is curious, my husband and I are deciding between the NovaFoam at Costco and a Sleep Number bed. We bought a topper at Costco earlier this year, but it's clear the mattress itself is in need of replacement.
Thanks for all the great information; you've all beeen very helpful!
Bought the Queen NovaForm CoolWave from Costco Home in Kirkland, WA. They had a demo mattress on the showroom floor. It was fully rectangular and the cover was tight (mattress fully inflated). My wife and I laid on the mattress and found it confortable. I'd read these and other post and knew the foam mattress would have a different feel. It was relatively easy to roll it on it's box-casters, and get it into my pick-up. I had to use a hand truck to get it to my second floor bedroom. I opened the bags and it began inflating as others had indicated. It appeared as if it inflated within four to six hours, but had a noticable ridge down the middle where the mattress had been folded at packing. The edges were also not sharp, and the cover was loose. A slight oder was present, but nothing that required airing out the room. We ended up sleeping on the mattress after 36 hours. It was confortable, but had a different feel. I definitely did not toss and turn, as on my previous spring mattress, and the slight warmth was welcome, in our cool climate.
The edges never did seem to fill out, and the center ridge was evident after a full week. My wife and I slept well at first, but I did start to develop a upper back ache, by the end of the first (and only week). I believe this may have been because I wasn't turning as I had with my old mattress. With this mattress I would sleep for most of the night on my back, without turning. This is a testimont to the better support, without pressure points, but cause upper back pain.
Anyway we elected to return the mattress to Costco, which was no small task. It was difficult to get the mattress folded and strapped, so I could get it back down the stairs and into my truck bed. Once back at Costco, they helped unload it and gave me a full refund, without problem. I was obviously dissappointed with the quality, but as far as sleep goes, I think I would have adjusted to the new and firmer feel. It definitely provided better support.
Can someone give a recommendation between the Novaform Comfortluxe (with Coolwave) and Novaform Elite? From reading the 21 pages of great information on here, I'm not getting a clear picture on which is preferred… it seems like the Comfortluxe can have heat problems, despite Coolwave, as well as a problem with being too firm… I don't really see complaints about the Elite version.. is it preferred, despite being the "cheaper" version by $200-$350? Thanks
Another question… is there any advantage to putting this on a platform or box spring, vs. the floor? I would prefer to just put it on the floor for now…
Hi – sorry to reply so late about where I got my boxspring for a memory foam. It was at a local place called the Mattress Store. If you ask the sales people at any mattress store, they can direct you to the right kind since most sell tempurpedic or other types of memory foam and need the correct type of box springs.
Mark–
I had the ComfortLuxe, and returned it–It wasn't hot at all–and even if it is, it is cooler than the Elite. The Elite is a bit softer–I found the C.Luxe very very very firm–and I already have a pretty firm mattress (Sealy). Either way–I would buy it on the website–That way they'll pick it up at no cost if you do not like it–I do think that the Novaform mattresses are firmer than say a Tempurpedic.
My next attempt will be to buy a Novaform Choices Topper from Costco–
has anyone tried the queen size 'sleep innovations choices' topper pad? it has 2.5" of memory foam backed with 1.5" micro-fiber. any problems rolling it out? is it comfortable? do you think it will be durable? purchased at costco in seattle for app. $140.
I ordered the King Comfortluxe November 19th. Got shipping confirmation the 21st. Delivery Nov. 28. Unpacked it on the lanai @4:30pm in 80 degree temp. It looked like the Costco picture in about 4 hours. No smell. No creases; No funny corners. Began using it last night (29th). I've enjoyed foam mattresses at hotels the past few years. My wife's jury is still out. She noticed the lack of an edge. Not a problem for me. I've always taken my half out of the middle anyway.
Great thread – Currently sleeping on a 6 yr old $2800 Spring Air Monaco pillow top. Not a good buy – Depressions appeared early on and a hump formed in the center, so we got a replacement. Same thing happened again after 6 months, but we lived with it. My wife and I are both lighweights, but now it has pretty much collapsed on both sides and the back aches and pains have reappeared.
Today I bought a 4" King size, Sleep Innovations 'Choices' Novaform Elite, Hypo Allergenic 2 in 1 Mattress topper at Costco to put on the ailing Sleep Air.
(This may be a new product as I have not seen this before – It says on the box, you can sleep on the fluffy Microfiber side, or the Memory Foam side. It comes with a nice 18" skirt sheet) I will post a review as soon we can start using it.
Anyway, the point is, if we like it, then we buy the 12" Novafoam Elite King matteress and put the 4" pad on that. The pad is currently doing its decompression thing. I love the idea that this will work out – I can't stand the thought of buying another traditional overpriced piece of crap spring bed. There just has to be a better way. 10 years wear is not too much to expect surely?
It seems that the King Comfortluxe has been replaced by the ELITE? The Elite is the only one being offered at my local Costco. On my way out, I asked customer service about the return policy. You can return it for any reason, no questions asked within 30 days. The only hassle being you have to drag it back to the store, in it's expanded state of course… the Elite is $655.00 at the store, or $749 online. Portland Or
Just got the Novaform Queen size mattress delivered yesterday. I ordered it online at Costco. I was expecting a big blue box with wheels to haul the monster and was a little bummed to see the UPS folks dropping off a box with one of the ends slightly opened. Regardless I hauled the box into the bedroom and opened the box to see a white colored plastic bag that again was opened on the top. This again increased my fears and made me wonder if this was a product that was returned before only to be shipped again to me. The inner plastic bag was intact and once I cut the inner plastic bag I heard the hissing noise and saw the mattress expanding. Since the mattress was folded lengthwise in the box , it was upside down after expanding so we flipped it and saw a slight ridge/bump in the middle which we thought was due to the fact that it was folded length wise. I also had a 1.5" foam mattress toppper (not Novaform) that I then added on the top of the mattress. My first night sleep was OK..not really great. I do have back problems and was expecting the foam mattress to be firm but I believe it is not as firm as I expected it to be so did wake up with my painful back. I am hoping it will take some time for me to adjust and hopefully I will get to enjoy the sleep the others are enjoying. One last thing did not smell any fumes, vapors etc when I opened the plastic bag. There was a hint of smell but it did disappear quickly.
I have been looking through the threads on the Novaform Comfortluxe and cannot say definitivelty what the overall consensus is. I guess the overall feel is positive, so I bit the bullet and I bought the King size version not 5 minutes ago. SO, my hope is that we love it and my husband's back pain will improve and I can quit hearing about how awful our current pillowtop is. How it dips in the middle and we end up rolling into each other mid-night. I bought the pillowtop just before we started dating 6+ years ago and have heard nothing but complaints ever since. He has wanted a foam mattress forever, so let's hope he absolutely loves it so I don't have to hear the complaints anymore or that he truly hates it so I can say "it's just you" out of spite for years of pillowtop bashing. Hopefully it's the bees knees, it's hard work being a "spite-er". I'll keep you posted..
Wendy – I have a similar experience with a pillow top (see my post a couple above this) let us know how it goes. Bad service and bad products really get me upset – so my wife accuses me of being a serial complainer also ! ha ha
rdy
Will do, RDY. Maybe you and my husband could trade product reviews. He knows everything about everything…
(P.S. I actually DO love my husband)
We purchased the Novaform Elite king size last weekend. We opened the mattress on Sunday around 3 p.m. and then slept on the mattress that night (around 11). After 4 days, there still seems to be a part of the mattress that has not fully expanded. One side of the bed sort of dips down a few inches from the edge. It runs the entire length of the mattres. Does anyone know if this will eventually fill in or should we exchange it? I guess I am wondering if we should have let it expand for a couple of days. Thanks!
Original quote: Anyway, the point is, if we like the Novaform Choices Topper pad, then we buy the 12″ Novafoam Elite King mattress and put the 4″ pad on that.
Sad to say the Choices Topper pad could not revive our tired Spring Air pillow top. Maybe it was expecting too much. After one night, my wife said it was like sleeping in Oatmeal – ha ha, and my back still feels like a migrating wildebeest had passed my way. So, I need to decide whether to get the Novaform Elite mattress anyway and add the topper ?
After much research, these people get very good reports.
healthyfoundations.com
OK..so its day 4 after I got the Novaform mattress..The mattress is now to its full size and contrary to some reports here, the edges look great. Also the mattress feels firm but not too firm. Never had such peaceful sleep with absolutely no tossing and turning and no back pain. I am begining to enjoy this one and hopefully it will stay like this
Three days and the corners still dip down and there is a lump in the middle. Hate to think
how to get this baby back in its box. does anyone have a customer-no- service number for Novaform?
I read through all the comments until my brain hurt. Today I went to Costco to purchase a king size, but the only style they have is "Elite". Can anyone explain what the difference between that and "comfortluxe" is. Seems to daunting a task to read through all these comments again.
Thanks
Hey Kumar – good to hear the mattress is working out. I am going to pull the trigger on the Elite as soon as I finish remodeling the bedroom. Currently in crown molding and bamboo flooring hell.
Susan: You need to return the mattress to Costco (if that's where you bought it) There is a Novafoam number on Costco's website.
This site has been very helpful – thank you to the owner.
I ordered the Novaform Cool Wave king size mattress from Costco online and had it delivered (I live in Vancouver, BC). I followed the simple instructions and after three days the top and bottom ends are only two thirds decompressed. While there was almost no smell the somewhat flattened ends will not do.
So, I just sent an e-mail to Costco customer service requesting they pick up the defective mattress and replace it with a new one. I am assuming they will pick it up and replace it as I cannot imagine trying stuff that foamy beast into my trunk. Not to mention, the ensuing wait to sleep on that lovely, dreamy, supple mattress is absolutely killing me.
I will repost with an update once a new one has arrived.
Chris
I've had a Novaform ComfortLuxe for two months now, and I noticed the mattress in not as firm as when it arrived. Our bodies sunk deeper now. I wonder if that's by design. Has anyone else noticed the same?
Very comfortable mattress. Got rid of my aching twitch. However, it gets hot. I wake up with a sweat on my back not front. I don't mind using it right now, but don't know if I can handle the summer heat. Thinking about returining it and getting the one with coolwave. Some of you guys posted that you can get the coolwave for $10 more. Where. I check out costco website and they're selling the queen for about $850. I got mine with out the coolwave for $500.
To answer Stefani's post (couple months back) we tried the Tempurpedic mattress, which is supposedly similar to the Novaform, at the Inn at the Market in Seattle, very close to Pike's Market. Well worth the investigational hotel stay if you are curious about what one feels like for the night before purchase.
IKEA offers memory foam mattresses at half the price ($200-$500). Anyone who tried these in the showroom have an opinion on these?
I ordered a queen-sized Novaform ComfortLuxe mattress from Costco.com on Dec. 28, and it arrived on January 6, well ahead of the 10-15 business days indicated on the order. It came in a large box weighing 118 pounds, which I managed to wrestle up a flight of stairs by myself. (not recommended)
When I unpacked it and cut away the wrapping, I did not experience a strong odor as others have reported. However, after the mattress was laid out on the bed, there was a high ridge in the center from where it had been folded lengthwise. After four hours, the crease had subsided about two-thirds, but I went ahead and slept on the bed anyway. The ridge didn't bother me during the night. Now, 24 hours later, it's visible as only a slight swell in the center of the mattress.
My initial impression is that the mattress isn't quite as soft as I'd hoped, although I've heard that memory foam can soften up a little during the first couple of weeks of use. I'm hoping it does.
Also, because I'd read so many complaints about it being hot, I didn't put my electric blanket on last night–just a sheet and down comforter. I ended up not sleeping well because I was too cold…
This mattress has the CoolWave layer, which is apparently effective at not trapping heat. So the blanket is going back on the bed–on low, for now.
The other thing that surprised me was the feeling that the bed is actually BIGGER now. My old mattress sagged in the middle, causing my bed partner (sometimes a human, often a Golden Retriever) to roll into me at night. With the memory foam, my dog slept inches away yet I didn't feel cramped. That's a big improvement.
For those comparing this mattress to the Tempur-Pedics, this Novaform ComfortLuxe feels to me much like Tempur-Pedic's DeluxeBed–a step up from the Classic but not as cushy as the Celebrity Bed. At least, that's how it feels to me. I'm interested in how others perceive it.
I still have the 2" memory foam mattress topper that I had over my old mattress, and I'm tempted to throw it on the new Novaform to see if it improves the cush-factor. I'll try to remember to swing back here in a few weeks with a final report card.
Chris here again. I posted above on Dec 18 about the king sized Novaform Cool Wave that did not fully decompress.
Well, it is now Jan 7 and the corners, as well as the edges along the head and foot of the bed, have still not fully decompressed (only 3/4). Also, there is a slightly raised ridge that runs along the middle from head to foot that is not visible, but is noticeable when either my wife or I roll over the center of the bed. As a result, Costco Canada has agreed to pick up this mattress from my home and give me a full refund (I ordered it online and had it delivered).
Since that time I ordered a second king sized Novaform Cool Wave online in hopes that we experience better results. It just arrived and was unpacked today. As with the first one there is no smell and I will post one more time after the decompression period has passed.
I have recently purchased a 2 1/2 inch novaform matress topper from Costco. Upon opening the box and finding the sealed bag I started to get excited and began to open it. My matress did not start to foam up as it should in fact I had to literally peel my mattress topper apart and now it is almost a week later and it is still not foamed up. I think I will be taking the matress topper back to Costco. Not real happy with the product so far.
I just ordered the NovaFoam Comfortluxe online. After reading all of this I am glad I ordered it online. I am hoping I will like it but have my doubts now that I have read all of the comments, which have been very helpful and greatly appreciated!!
I am concered about set-up? Should I worry that we are in the middle of winter here in WA when I unpack it? Do I need to keep the room warmer while it is doing it's thing? Also, any thoughts on the fact my husband and I sleep with the windows open even in winter? Will this have any effect on the Novafoam. Would love to hear more on the Comfortluxe. Wish I had bought it during the coupon period though.
An after thought to anyone considering the Select Comfort. Do not go there!! Step away from the mattress!! After spending $2800.00 for the top of the line and having 8 months of excrutiating sleep, they finally told me they were having a bladder issue. After bladder was replaced still horrid. Finally screamed so much we got a full refund. Totally disappointed. Why should good sleep be so hard!!!!
I havent seen this mentioned in any other posts, but…can you cut these mattress toppers?
We have a boat and the bunks are irregular shapes…would consider purchasing the 2 1/2 " mattress topper if it could be trimmed to fit each bunk
thanks for any input.
dee
Has anyone had any problems with the Novaform mattress absorbing odors, especially pet odors? We plan to purchase one but our labs like to sleep on it also and we want to see if it absorbs odors eaisly.
Reply to Dee.
I use the Novaform Choices Topper pad currently. (It gets more comfortable as time goes on. It's only a few weeks old) I can't see why you could not cut it – It looks like regular foam.
Going to buy the Costco Novaform Elite mattress next week and put the pad on top. When the pad wears out, replace it, then hopefully the mattress will last longer
I am writing to share my Novaform Mattress Experience and to also ask a few questions. My girlfriend and I live just outside of Toronto and ordered our new Comforluxe king size mattress Online at Costco. We were told shipping would be 3-5 days. We were replacing a queen size mattress so we needed also to buy a new bed frame. It was a wednesday at 9pm when we ordered it so we figured we would go on Saturday to buy a bed, not expecting to get it until at least Monday. Friday afternoon the Ups guy came knocking at my door. A day and a half and it was here!!He then told me that he wouldn't be able to lift the box by himself and that he had no dolly. Can you believe it. I went out to his truck and helped him lift this 150lb box that looked like it had seen better days and also was covered in red crayon which I got all over my pants. We were so excited that it came so soon, although we had to go buy a bed that night.I have never had a good ups experience so I did not expect much… but that was ridiculous. After getting the bed set up in our room we opened the 2 packages and laid the mattress out on the bed to expand. There was absolutley no odor that either of us could smell. I am assuming that is a trait of the Elite series. After 24 hours it looked like it had expanded about 3/4's of the way. Cover was still loose at some parts, and where it was folded over in the package it was still quite low. Probably in about 3 or four different spots. Left it another 48 hours and still no change, so we decided to take the cover off to see what was going on. At all the low spots there were big rips in the mattress, they look very similar to the Grand Canyon. We phoned Costco thinking they have this great customer service that i hear about, and they will pick it up in like 3 weeks or we can attempt to put this thing in our Honda Civic or Prelude and bring it back. There is no way we can get this thing back to the store to return it! It weighs 150lbs and is now 80×76x12 inches so we have to now wait. We gave our old bed away that night and didn't feel like sleeping on our couch anymore, so we covered the bed with a sheet and slept on it anyways. Sooooo comfortable even though there were a few low spots.As far as the heat issue… not hot at all to sleep on.So far we have had a poor experience but love the mattress. Our biggest worry is that what if the next one we get is the same?! You have to get a refund then buy it all over again, as Costco doesn't just exchange things.The girl at Costco customer service told us to buy another one and wait for them to pick up the old one and refund our money. Who says that! I gave them over a thousand bucks for the first one, and don't plan on giving them any more until I get one with no holes. Where is the customer service everybody keeps bragging of? Is this because it was old stock? This seems to me like it could be a nightmare, we want this bed! But will not accept it with these defects… HELP!!!! What do we do???? I have read of similar problems on this board, but no one has said what happened after returning it.
Regarding the Comforluxe–I have a latex bed now, which has some sort of fiber-fill topper which has of course compressed and formed the evil hump in the middle of the bed. I just read that the Comforluxe has a fiber-filled cover. Is this just a thin little layer, or something that might compress and form an evil hump?
Thanks everyone!
Hey Laura,
The cover on the comfortluxe is really just a cover. It is a very soft quilted fabric that is not very thick. You can remove it(it unzips) and throw it in the washing machine. I don't think it is possible for it to really take any sort of shape. The mattress has the four layers moulded together and I haven't had my bed long enough to tell you about sagging over time, I got one that was very old stock and am in the process of returning. Everybody on here seems to say they stand the test of time, I believe the same. Hope that helps!
Thanks Mike!
I am really torn over the elite vs the comfortluxe. I'm a little worried about the firmness of the luxe…I don't mind firm, as long as it's not hard. What do you think?
Hey Brett,
I have the same problem.
I have recently purchased a 2 1/2 inch novaform matress topper from Costco too. My matress did not start to foam up as it should in fact I had to literally peel my mattress topper apart and now it is almost a week later and it is still not foamed up.
In fact, the corners are still deflated. And there are still folding marks left on the toppers.
I am curious if I opened the topper wrong.
Am I suppose to not manually unfold the topper to its flat form or is it suppose to "air up" and unfold itself once the vaccuum bag was cut opened?
I haven't tried the Elite series mattress, I do hear it is a little softer. I Love the firmness of the comfortluxe mattress. I wouldn't say it is too firm. I don't think you would want to sink into it anymore than I do with this one, not without the cool touch foam anyways. That might be why there are some complaints of the Elite being a little on the warmer side.
Brett,
I have read quite a few issues with the toppers, Can't say for certain about the Topper, but I know the mattress instructions tell you to spread it out on your bed frame or boxspring to let it expand.
Sorry last post for john(not Brett)
Mike,
Thanks for the info. After reading that the Elite has a 4lb layer of memory foam, I think that pushes me towards the Comfortluxe, which is slightly firmer, with a 6lb and 5 lb layer underneath the 'cool' layer. Now I just have to wait for the thing to go on sale online!
I got one from Costco too. I never had any problems. I have very sensitive sense of smell and I never smelled anything. I have experienced that smell from a foam pillow one time so I know what you are talking about. The pillow smell was reduced after about 6 months but never went away. I didn't have the problem with it not expanding all the way either. Maybe you should unzip the cover and try to straighten it all out inside.
I just pulled the trigger and ordered the King Comfortluxe online from Costco. I'll post back in a few weeks after it arrives and we use it a while.
What happens if you use a standard mattress pad on top of the 12" Novafoam Elite? How long must you let it expand before you can sleep on it? This site certainly gave us lots to think about. Thanks!
Has anyone tried washing the cover of their comfortluxe? I want to wash mine but I was wondering if anyone had any washing machine suggestions and also, did you put it in the dryer or air dry it? Thanks,
nat
I bought a Novaform Elite 2 1/2" topper and it did not expand all the way to the edge. Also it "drifts" and must be tugged back into position on our mattress every morning. Any solution to "drifting"
I have been a Tempur-Pedic pillow user for about 10 years. I also bought a couple of Novaform pillows at Costco, but never liked them as much as the Tempur.
However, the TempurPedic mattress are considerably more money. So I orderd a Novaform Comfortluxe Queen about three weeks ago.
Mine had neglible odor.
After expansion, I was left with a 6" crease in the middle on one side where the edge is about 1" lower.
The cover is somewhat loose and puckered and wrinkled in the middle, like there is too much material.
While wondering if this was enough imperfectness to brave the hassle of returning, I am now (after 3 weeks of sleeping on it) thinking that it is too soft.
I feel that my lower back is sinking too low, just not supportive enough. I will test drive the Tempurs this weekend and try to figure out if I should buy the foam that I already loved so much.
I finally setup my king Elite a few weeks ago. I LOVE it except for 2 thing. First I can still smell it while sleeping on it. Second and most importantly, it is much hotter than a regular mattress. Even if I just use a sheet, my top gets cold, but it's still too warm underneath.
So for anyone who has used both the Elite and Comfortluxe. Is the Comforluxe much cooler? And how much softer is it? I really like the firmness of the Elite. Also, is there anything I could top the Elite with to make it cooler?
yea this bed is quite good it is good. me and my wife are enjoy this bed good. i hav uhh da neck problem and i am no more nck problem now . very good very good……
Wow. They have stepped up the shipping. Arrived via UPS 4 days after ordering. It is expanding now. It was folded and vacuumed in a "W" shape, so now I understand why other said there was a ridge in the middle. That is the peak of the W. We'll see if it fully expands. I'll be back to let everyone know!
I had the same experience with Costco. I got their memory foam mattress and returned it. I ended up ordering one from RestOnClouds.com after reading some reviews-It's great. If they were on e-bay, i'd rate them A+++++++ Seller! (Sorry, I'm an e-bay dork)
Hey Matt… Mike here, let us know how your expansion is going… Make sure you remove the cover and check for damage. Our King had holes where it was folded over at the peak of the "w". I have since contacted sleep innovations and e-mailed them the pics and they have offered to send me a new one(they don't pick up the old one they just send you another) I am thinking that it is because it might have been old stock(I hope). Will let everyone know how it goes. No odour at all with this comfortluxe, not that I notice anyways.
I received our Novaform "Coolwave" in mid-December. Six weeks later it still smells slightly and has a serious ridge in the middle of each end. I took the cover off — sloppily made — the layers do not line up and some areas are glued/others not. I called three weeks ago to have it picked up, and just heard back today, so I should be rid of this thing next week.
I don't know if I should try the confortluxe, or bite the bullet and get a Sealy or Tempur-Pedic from the local Sleep City. Has anyone really compared the name brands with the Costco models for comfort or smell?
We slept on it for the first time last night – we let it expand for a full 3 days before sleeping on it. No center ridge on ours. It expanded to fill out the cover quite snugly. There are two low spots on one edge, like the foam has an indention or crease. If you run your hand along the edge of the bed, you can feel it drop about 1 or 2 inches in each spot. We'll see if it fills in. I didn't take the cover off to look at the foam for a rip or hole. I'll probably check it tonight. No bad smell at all. As for sleeping, I did wake up a few times, but felt rested this morning. So I'd give it a B+ after one night. So glad I found this board for info and feedback. I'll post again after sleeping on it for a while.
We recieved our replacement mattress directly from Sleep Innovations and it was flawless. It fully expanded almost instantly (again with no odour) and filled out much better than the one we recieved from Costco. It is perfectly flat and it has only been a couple of hours. If you get one from Costco and are not satisfied, just contact Sleep Innovations and they will ensure your complete satisfaction. We are very happy with this purchase!
Mystic… I don't find the comfortluxe hot at all and I have a very warm comforter. If you are thinking about switching it for the Comfortluxe I would think you would like it a little better.
Hello everyone,
I ended up getting the Elite from my local Costco (California) and like it, but don't like the little ridge in the center, which has not flattened out. So, I ordered the Comfortluxe online to replace it. I called Sleep Innovations to find out whether it would be shipped from Jersey, or someplace closer, and found out that it would be shipped from their Rancho Cucamonga plant after they manufacture it. That leads me to my theory: the beds at Costco have been sitting there for who knows who long, all squished up. The ones that you order online are assembled, then squished, then shipped. So, maybe the 'freshness' factor makes a difference in how long they sit around all smashed together. I'll let everyone know!
Laura.
We got ours (Novaform Elite Memory Foam Mattress Topper) through Coscto online and are very happy with it. I just put it on a week ago. The slight foam smell dissapated after a few days, and it opened completely with no flat edges. The slight ridge from where it was folded also came out overnight. It's a dream to sleep on.
I think that might be the way to do it – - order it only so it's compressed and mailed, then opened within days. I think the amount of shelf time when squished might cause the ridge to hang around…
Sorry, I meant 'order it online' so it's compressed and open within days…
i was told that if you did not sleep on the Novaform mattress 6 days in a row it became very firm and did not conform to your body. Does anyone have any experience with this?
Phyllis
Well, I'm glad I found this place. I spent the morning reading all these reviews. I was going to go to the local shop and check out a Tempurpedic..but no more. I called Costco, confirmed their return policy. 100% satisfaction guaranteed. No time limit. AND they will pick up the mattress and return it for no charge to us. Can't lose!
I will follow up after using it for a while. Our current bed is a backbreaker, so I'm looking forward to it.
Received the Comfortluxe tonight. I'll set it up Saturday. My impressions (har har) of the Elite model is that it's extremely comfy, but maybe a little soft. I can't complain, however, because I've been sleeping great on it. But, California summers are hot hot hot, so I think the cool-wave layer, if it works, might help. The bed has softened up in the 2 weeks I've been sleeping on it. The middle ridge is now almost completely gone. All in all a very nice bed, but I am looking forward to the comfortluxe. I'll try to compare and contrast next week!
I just wanted to share our experience with the Costco Novaform mattresses.
We order the King CoolWave mattress. It arrived 2 days after placing the order. The box that it came in had a huge hole in it – the box was all mangled up. When we lugged the sealed mattress up to our room and set it up it did not make that hissing sound like other people describe. We let it expand for 4 days and it still had the rigdge running in the middle and all four corners did not expand. So I removed the cover and all foam on all the corners looked like they were melted\fused together and the blue layer was not even glued down. I called SleepInnovations – they said it was deffective take it back to Costco and order another one.
So I ordered a second one. Same deal, it arrived 2 days later, the box on this one was in good shape and the sealed mattress inside was considerably smaller (i.e. shruck tighter). We set it up and it immediately started expanding and we heard the hissing sound as soon as I cut the inside bag. We let this one expand for 24 hours it was almost fully expanded except for the center ridge and teh 4 corners were also stuck down. We slept on it for a week – it is very comfortable – but it does get hot and it stinks like latex paint even after 7-10 days. So I removed the cover on that one and same deal the corners were also fused together. I called SI and they it is also damaged – send it back.
So we decided to order the Comfortlux this time. We found the CoolWave to be a little too soft – you really do sink in and if you toss and turn a lot it is a bit tricky.
The comfortlux arrived last night, we set it up at 9pm. By 8am this morning it was approx. 85% expanded. The corners actually look like they are expanding on this one – we may actually have a winner this time. I will send an update after a few days to see how this one turns out.
Taking back the mattress wasn't too big of a deal. I just folded it in half and tied it up and took it back to Costco. My costco has a really nasty "Return Desk Nazi". She wasn't too friendly didn't understand why I wanted to return it….
Hopelly I will get someone else today when I lug the second one back….
Steve
Steve, If you take pictures of the damaged matress and send them to Sleep Innovations They will send you a New one! (fresh instead of sitting at Costco's wharehouse for 2 years) Had the same problem with our Costco Comfortluxe and the replacement sent by the manufacture immediately expanded within 12 hours and was perfect. It had no smell whatsoever and they do not even pick up the old one. Much better than having to bring it back and keep playing mattress "russian roulette" !!
We let the new Comfortlux expand 24 hours – all the edges appear to have expanded and the center ridge is almost gone.
We decided to try it out last night…WOW – what a HUGE difference over the CoolWave – this mattress is 1000% better. It is nice and firm – you do not sink into the mattress. There is a smell but it is not as toxic\overwhelming as the previous 2 coolwaves. I would definitely recommend this mattress.
I am going to let it expand for another couple of more days…it the center ridge is still there and the edges are not 100% expanded then I am going to take Matt's advice and take some pics and send it to Sleep Innovations for a "factory fresh" replacement.
I hope our experience helps potential buyers…
Steve
This is an update on my comment from 1/25/07.
(Recap: Permanent crease / loose cover with folds / too soft).
I did look at the TempurPedic mattress, and like the feel MUCH better. It also has a nicer cover, and it zips off on all four sides, leaving the bottom of the cover in place.
It is also twice the price. You get what you pay for, I guess. Others on this forum have liked some other online mattresses better than the Novaform, but I can't take any more chances on something untried, especially without a Costco-like no-cost return policy.
I called Costco online, and they said a shipping company (Lynden?) would call me in 2 to 3 WEEKS to schedule a pickup. I will also have to take off work for half a day to be there. I hope to have my money back within a couple of months!
On a side note, I was told that the Novaform mattresses and toppers are Costco's most returned items out of ALL items that they sell.
Steve
In your opinion Steve, between the comfortluxe and the elite, which one would you buy and why?
Steve. Do yourself a favour and e-mail sleep Innovations and tell them your issues with your mattress. The reason why Costco has so many problems and returns is because they are not stocking fresh product. We cancelled our pick up from Costco and dealt directly with the manufacturer. Had a new fresh mattress within a week and did not have to worry about sending the old mattress anywhere(I can just put it out on spring pick up garbage day). The difference between the two products was unbelievable. First one had low spots and did not fill the cover even after a week, the replacement was flat and full within one hour. All by simply taking photographs and filling out the proper paperwork, we had no problems after that.
First night on the NovaForm mattress: awesome!
i recently purchased a tempsoma memory foam mattress at sams club queen size. its 12" thick and has the 3" of memory foam with the 9" base. it was only $500 so i thought it was a steal. i brought it home and watched it rise before my eyes, incredible, analyzing the front and sides, i saw that it wasnt really "edgy" it sagged in these areas, and the center had this funny hump almost a line of separation for my girlfriend and i when we slept together. it said wait 24 hours but after a few it looked pretty much risen so i decided to try it out, great sleep, however after a week or so i got worried because the sides hadn't evened out and the center hump was still there, however after a few weeks, surprisely the center ridge was gone, and the edges werent "sharp" but were kinda rounded like those of a regular mattress, yet even with the rest of the bed so no complaints….it just takes the bed time to form, so i wouldnt take it back after a week of its appearance not being up to par if u find it comfortable….only problem i had was a queen just felt to small for my girlfriend and i, so today i did my research on a king bed, so i bought the comfortluxe novaform bed from costco's website and it turns out, to my amazement, novaform and my original tempsoma memory foam bed is made by the same people "Sleep Innovations". i thought that the comfortluxe was the next level with all its different levels of memory foam in it 1.5" coolmax foam+ 1.5" of 6lb density foam + 2" of 5lb density foam, so im looking forward to testing this thing out (i gotta wait 10-14 days for arrival), i expect it to be comparable to my other one since there made by the same company, and with that being said, i've never noticed, a sleeping "hot" factor with my tempsoma mattress, which has a velour cover and i have sheets on top of that, and based on my reading, all memory foam is designed to be more giving after a while as that is the "breakin in" part of it, and another thing, i have a bad back for my young age (only 20) and initially i felt back pain for maybe the first 2 nights, im guessing because i was FINALLY sleeping right, lol, and after that it disappeared, incredible, so im happy with my initial buy and hope the comfortlux impresses me as much, if not im gonna take it back and shell out an additional $300 for the 12" cirrus bed i saw on restonclouds.com this thing looks EXACTLY like the tempur pedic celebrity bed and im guessin it feels identical too, to bad i discovered it 2 hours after i made my purchase
…but i will give the comfortluxe its 25-30 day trial if i dont like, im gonna try out that cirrus one, if anyone ownes a 12" cirrus bed from restonclouds.com please tell me what u think, thanks
P.S sex on these beds is incredibly ackward, i tend to not wanna get to expermintal on this as i would with a regular mattress thats the only draw back, getting ridin', or doin it laying down sideways is great, but doggy and other ones are kinda tricky and a lil straining since regualr mattresses help u out with bounce and rthym, honestly, a floor seems like an easier surface than this because once u start gettin the hang of it, u start sinking and melting downward lol, needless to say, i think these are best for sleeping
saw the Novafoam Elite at our local Costco (they had just the mattress topper until few days ago and now I see the blue colored Novaform Elite boxes). So what's the difference between the Elite (which retails for $499) and the Comfortluxe (for which I paid $750 online)?. Is the Elite less firm or few layers, there has to be some difference to justify the difference in price??
Novaform Elite vs. ComfortLuxe:
OK, after 5 nights on the new Comfortluxe mattress–there is NO comparison to the Elite. The luxe is infinitely more comfortable. Not softer, but more luxurious, in a supportive way. Hard to explain, but the Elite was too soft, I think. You sink through the memory foam directly to the standard foam, and so it feels to soft and too hard, at the same time. The luxe, on the other hand, is amazing! I think it's true what they say about the higher-density foam. You'd think it would be harder, but it's really not.
The center ridge is gone, but every day it flattens out a little bit more. It's nearly flat now, after 5 days. When I received the box (which required a signature by UPS, by the way) it had a red tag with what I assumed was a packing date. It had a January 18 date on it, and I received it on February 8. So, I'm guessing it was in the box for about 3 weeks. I have a theory that it takes as long to fully return to its normal shape as it was in the box. We'll see!
It does seem cooler than the Elite. The summer will tell.
I love this bed!
Have purchased my second Nova Form Topper and it is now over two weeks and still has not puffed up at least 12 inches in from each end.Unfortunately several people I talked to have the same results. Unfortunately I discarded the packaging and invoice so cannot return the product. I definitely would not buy another one. The first one opened fine in 12 hours and is performing great but a 50% failure rate would put me out of business and it should hopefully send a message to the manufaturer of Nova Form. The quality control must be ZERO whereever these are manufactured and I certainly would not give them a favorable rating.
Any further comments +/- on Novafoam mattress? Read much about intial odor and heat retention.
New memory foam question:
Anyone know WHERE the foam is manufactured for Costco's ComfortLuxe and Novaform Elite? Or how I can find out?
Also what's in the glue that holds the layers together?
One concern I've encountered/have in all my research is that European and US manufactured foam is likely to be of pure chemical quality and 'up to specs,' whereas many TempurPedic clone type foams are made below industry standards, in China. (I got some info on this from the Polyurethane Foam Association website (www.pfa.org), who sent me a detailed email reply within the hour.)
I was inches from buying a memory foam (King) by SleepShop through Amazon ($579 for king mattress), but when I called SleepShop directly to find out where the foam was manufactured, I was literally told, "Oh, it's kind of a generic foam, made in China. I don't know who the manufacturer is." Eeek! My kids have breathing difficulties (asthma), and some of the chemicals used in the foam-making process are known to aggravate and even cause severe asthma symptoms.
SO my question for you all, who seem very thorough!, is
do you have any info on who manufactures, and where, the Costco Novaform (we are not sure whether to go ComfortLuxe or Elite… sounds like most people find Elite softer and a bit less supportive, so I am leaning towards ComfortLuxe (?))?
Thank you so much for this VERY helpful thread!
Kevin,
There is just the slightest odor (and I'm sensitive) which is nearly gone within a day or so. Much less odor than the Tempur-pedic pillows that I've tried. I had to move some of them into another room for a couple of days until the odor lessened.
Liz,
I'd call Sleep Innovations and ask them. When I talked to them on the phone, they mentioned a 'manufacturing facility' in Southern California, and another in New Jersey. Of course, that might be the infamous 'assembly only.' Their number is on Costco's website. Post your info, if you get it…
Cheers,
Laura.
In response to kevin and following up on Laura, I called Sleep Innovations and they stated that all of there memory foam is manufactured in the U.S. and meets the requirements for a Californian Technical Bullitin (I am not real sure what one of these is). The support person didn't know anything about the glue between the layers.
Since that is about all the person on the phone was able to tell me I tried their online submission via http://www.sleepinnovations.com and received the following response with 30 minutes of submitting it on their website:
"Thank you for your inquiry. Our products are made from 100%
polyurethane visco elastic memory foam. They do not contain any PBDE's
or latex. All of out foam meets the requirements of the California
Technical Bulletin 117. Please visit http://www.bhfti.ca.gov/ for more
information on that bulletin. All of our foam is manufactured in the
United States. Our foam is treated with Ultra Fresh which is an
antimicrobial that protects against dust mites, mold and mildew. Please
visit http://www.ultra-fresh.com/tra/ for more information on Ultra
Fresh. If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact
me. Thank you for your interest in our products!
Best Regards,
Sarah Strahle
Sleep Innovations
187 Route 36 Suite 101
West Long Branch NJ 07764
ph-732-263-0800
fax-732-263-0900"
Has anyone else actually tried both the Elite and ComfortLuxe? Any suggestions/comments/comparisions as I am trying to decide. Thanks to all, this is a very informative thread!
Cam
Hey Richard, Brett & John.
We too had the same compression problem with our Novafoam topper from Costco. We bought it one week ago, opened it up, and literally had to peel it open. Since the instructions noted that it could take 24 to 48 hours to decompress, we layed it out on the floor of the spare bedroom and it is still laying there, slowly decompressing. I was so frustrated this morning and wondered if it could be the cold weather that was causing this. So, I brought out a space heater and set it up in the bedroom, set the temperature to 78, closed the door and waited. Well, it’s been about 3 hours now and believe it or not, the foam is finally puffing up nicely.
I found this website looking for anyone else that might be having the same problem with theirs before taking it back to Costco. I’m going to stick it out and see what happens now that I’m seeing some positive results with the space heater. I do agree that these mattresses and mattress toppers have probably been sitting in a warehouse for a long period of time, folded and compressed……….so their only “memory†is to be smashed in a vacuum sealed bag.
FYI, for the next few weeks, Costco's got $60-$75 off all the NovaForm Elite memory foam mattresses. Just ordered mine.
Cam,
Yes, I had the Elite for about 3 weeks and traded up for the Comfortluxe. In my mind, a vastly more comfortable mattress. Soft, but not as squishy as the Elite. But still plenty soft. (see my post above) I also think that the Luxe is cooler.
Cheers!
p.s. There was almost no odor with this mattress (the luxe). The Elite might have had a slightly stronger odor, but it was still barely noticable, and I have a sensitive sniffer.
Well, after reading through this long and informative thread, I think I'm going to go with the new Novaform Comfortluxe mattress at Costco.com.
However, since I'm cheap, I won't purchase the mattress until it's on sale.
The last discount/sale was around $150 off, right?
Any clues on when a similar sale for the Comfortluxe mattresses might start? (In other words, should I hold my breath?…lol).
Quisp,
I tried to do the same thing, and wait, but, being the compusive buyer that I am, I couldn't! When I was on the phone with Sleep Innovations, I asked if they knew when the next sale was, and they said 'possibly' March. So, your wait may soon be over!
Laura.
Laura,
"Possibly" March sounds good to me…;)
I'll try to hold out as long as I can, but as you implied, it might not be so easy…
Thanks for the tip,
Quisp
Well there is a sale right now, through half of march, but it's for the Elite series, not the Comfortluxe… You can always buy an Elite now, and if it turns out not to be good enough, return it and get a Comfortluxe.
Toby,
I did notice your previous posting on that Elite Series sale at Costco.com. Cool heads-ups.
I'll still probably wait to see what happens with the Comfortluxe pricing. Limiting my possibility of a return makes sense to me…At least for now…;)
Three days now and the edges of the foam topper have not expanded. Novaform Elite 2 1/2" from Costco, $169.99 CND. Sounds like many of these are defective. I'll be looking for another brand. (To bad the use of foul language in some of these comments could not be kept out)
Now that I have read through all of this great information about the beds….any of you who posted that you just purchased the bed, are you still happy with it?
Are orders placed on costco.com shipped directly from the manufacturer? Or do they come from a costco warehouse somewhere?
After reading all of your comments, I decided to try a Cool Wave Mattress topper from Costco as my birthday present. I have a Sleep Number bed, which I like for its ability to make firmer or softer (especially for two sleepers), but I've never felt that its actually comfortable and often woke up with back pain. I ordered the topper on-line. It was on sale for $120 for a queen.
I'm glad to say that I've been very satisfied with the product. Upon opening the bag, the topper puffed up almost immediately. It felt very fresh, almost moist. There was an odor, but not overpowering. We layed it out on the dining room table to air for close to a week.
On Sat. night I couldn't wait any more, and even tho my husband was out, I wrestled the topper upstairs by myself, laid it out on the bed, and got the cover zipped on. I was impressed with the cover, it's very soft with a smooth zipper, and a mattress-pad type skirt that fits under the bed and keeps the topper from slipping.
It's a 2-inch topper and I'm a light person, so I don't sink down enough into the bed to make any kind of divets. My sleep experience isn't dramatically different. But its thick enough to cushion hips, shoulders, and those other places that were uncomfortable with what I had before, which was a heated mattress pad with a regular mattress pad on top of that. Both of those are gone, and I now just have the foam topper and sheets.
I get warm when I sleep, which is why I tried the cool wave. Temperature-wise it seems just about perfect. I'm going to try rotating it every 3 months as was recommended on this site, and hopefully it will last for quite a while. My back feels better, too. So I give the Cool Wave topper a thumbs-up.
Joan
I wanted to thank everyone for this wonderful site, and give my review in hopes of helping others!
We bought the Novaform Elite Coolwave at Costco Home in Kirkland, WA a few weeks ago. I have a neck and back soft tissue injury, and was waking up in pain everyday, partly from our failing 2000 Beautyrest.
It expanded quickly, and there wasn't an overwhelming chemical smell. We slept on it the same night, with a bit of a ridge in the middle from the fold, but that went away completely in 2 days. We did inspect the mattress under the cover prior to putting everything together, and it was perferct. So far so good!
We bought a Novaform topper at Costco a year ago, so we started out with that and our mattress on top of the old boxspring. After a few days, we wondered if it was a little too soft, so we took the topper off. A couple of days later, we decided to put it back on. We're sleeping well now, a few weeks later, with the topper, and a plywood base instead of the boxspring.
It's taken some time to adjust to the new bed, and stomach-sleeping isn't comfortable for me, but every other position is great for both of us. My neck and back feel a lot better in the morning. Sometimes I do find myself with a numb arm when I sleep on it funny and fail to move most of the night due to the way the foam conforms and makes rolling more of an effort.
Amorous activities have been fantastic! I can stay in certain positions A LOT longer without fatigue or knee discomfort. That part of our life is all the better for this new bed.
And it's very comfortable to read, watch tv, etc., in.
I don't think this is the perfect bed, but it's FAR better than what we had, a good value, and perhaps it's as close as we'll get to perfect. If we're not as satisfied in a few months, maybe we'll try one of the Sterns & Foster latex/MF combos from Costco, but I'm guessing we'll stick with this one.
Anyway, thanks again to everyone who commented; this was the most helpful site in making our decision, and I hope people continue to share!
Oh, and one more thing…
My husband's a VERY hot sleeper. It's not unusual for him to sweat like crazy at night. However, he's been getting COLD with this mattress!
I'm usually cold, and hate getting into a cold bed, so I've always had a heated mattress pad (which hasn't damaged the topper at all, BTW). With the weather warming a little, I have to turn it off at night with the Novaform, or I get way too hot. Hubby usually leaves his side on low, and is comfortable. Our house drops to 60 at night.
Mind you, the topper may make it perform differently, but it seems like this bed's a happy medium for us. I think it'll be very nice and cool in the summer for both of us, but we'll see. For cooler weather, it certainly feels perfect to warm it up a bit with the pad initially, then turn it off/to low to sleep.
Has anyone ever tried Walmart's 12" SPA memory foam mattress?
I read it's features & specifications, it has 3" of 5lb high density memory foam as well.Besides, it's cheaper than Costco's Elite memory foam.
You can also refer to this website
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4457130
I want to buy a memory foam mattress, but I am wondering which one is better.
If it's Walmart, the foam might be manufactured outside of the US. Check earlier comments for info on the foam used in the Novaform mattress…
I recently bought a Nova Form queen mattress recently from costco. The first one didn't expand all the way on one side, I emailed Nova Form to ask how long I should wait for it to fully expand and they said 72 hours. They said that I should exchange it at costco, but if I had any problems let them know. I exchanged it no problem and my new one expanded very nicely. I love it, I have back and shoulder injuries and it makes a difference. Have had no problem with getting too hot at all, and there was hardly any smell when I opened it. I would recommend it..
I finally broke down and bought a Comfortluxe from costco.com this morning. Thanks for everyone who posted in this forum. I will report back once we receive it and give my review.
Costco's return policy plus Sleep Innovations willingness to replace a defective mattress were they key in my decision.
Hello Folks,
My last post was 2/9/07. Our third mattress-the Comfortluxe also had a defect in it – the upper left corner didn't expand. I removed the cover and found the three layers of foam were severely misaligned.
I decided to take Mike's recommendation this time. I called Sleep Innovations explained my situation. They sent me a warranty replacement form and asked that I send pictures of the defect. Three weeks later our new mattress (this would be the fourth one) arrived (the poor UPS man :>).
The packaging from SI is much different than Costco. It did not come in the outer white mylar bag. Instead it had a canvas tube wrapped around it.
We hauled it up to our bedroom set it up and presto – just like everyone else's experience it started to expand immediately. Within 2-3 hours it was 95% expanded!!!
We will sleep on it tonight. This one looks perfect. (Fingers crossed).
So the moral of the story is – if your new Comfortluxe from Costco is defective, do not waste time returning and buying another one from Costso, call SI customer service and they will send you a good one.
Sleep Well….
Steve
There's ANOTHER company that no one's mentioned. It is even more affordable than the Costco brands, and it seems very legit. Any thoughts? bedinabox.com
I'm still concerned about the quality of these things after about a year. I bought a 3" topper last year, and I had to toss it because the center of it (the main sleeping area) lost all of it's "spring." The effect was a crooked back and uncomfortable sleep — worse than without it!
Those of you who have had a foam mattress for longer than a year — IS IT STILL GOOD?
Our Comfortluxe arrived today and it came in the same packaging that Steve described. A canvas type tube wrapped around it. It has almost fully expanded in 4 hours. I think we'll wait until tomorrow night to sleep on it.
JD…
I'm through with spring mattresses. Hunting for a foam mattress like JD.
The Bedinabox.com is a 3 pound density memory foam – the lowest density foam I've found in a full size mattress. The highest I found was a Tempur-pedic with a 7 pound layer (and thousands of dollars). NovaForm's Comfortluxe at Costco online is a layer of 5 pound density foam + a layer of 6 pound density foam + a layer of CoolWave (can't find the density of the CoolWave but it is considerably less I'm sure which is why it is cooler plus I'm thinking this layer may also be open cell foam). Can't find who's "behind" bedinabox though. SleepInnovations is the manufacturer behind the NovaForm line.
- Less density is cooler.
- Open cell foam is cooler.
- Less density is cheaper (less resin used to make the foam).
- Less density is lighter (density is weight per cubic foot of foam which tells you how much resin they put in it and the resin is what produces the visco-elastic effect we want).
- Greater density is increased durability and memory and conformity/elasticity (which is the point of going to this visco-elastic foam in the first place).
- Less density is less sensitive to temperature (not as soft with body heat and not as hard with a cold bedroom).
- NovaForm's Comfortluxe should "operate" okay between 60-90 degress. Below 60 may be too hard. And over 90 may be too "gooey" as bedinabox likes to say. Lower density foam, such as bedinabox, will not have the same desired qualities as NovaForm but will also avoid some of the disadvantages – such as heat.
You must trade the advantages of durability and memory with the disadvantages of heat OR find a visco-elastic mattress designed to transfer the heat. CoolWave is SleepInnovation's means to address the heat. Others address it with a Latex layer or with tiny holes drilled thru the mattress to the egg-crate foundation layer to allow heat to escape. Tempur-pedic uses the egg-create design ("convoluted") plus their coverings to address heat.
So far, I've ruled out Latex foam/rubber mattresses (although they are very popular in europe and have a longer life and are cool – they don't have the conformity/comfort). I'm zeroing in on this visco-elastic. And so far this NovaForm Cumfortluxe WITH CoolWave layer (and the Costco price) is top of my list. I'm 160 pound male, side sleeper, and I run hot but the 12" NovaForm ComfortLuxe CoolWave is the best option I've found so far. I need the 5" foam top because of being a side sleeper (the hip issue for side sleepers). I like what I'm hearing about the CoolWave.
Few mattress manufacturers have the compression equipment to put the mattress in a box like SleepInnovations so I'm wondering who really makes the bedinabox mattresses (is it just a lower end mattress from SleepInnovations???).
The TemperFlow.com Mattress sounds interesting (2 egg crate binding layers with holes drilled thru the mattress to let heat escape thru the egg create layers). But I can't find who's behind this mattress. SpaceDaily.com's article comparing Temperflow to tempur-pedic rated their design high for addressing the heat issue but finding the cost, dealers, and ordering process is obtained only by contacting them directly – seems a bit odd to me that it's all a secret. The $522 12" queen memory foam mattress at Amazon.Com looks good for the price but 5" of 5.3 lb memory foam is a bit more of hole than I want to sink into I think – reviews suggest you have to "climb out" in the morning and can't roll over during the night with 5" of 5.3 pound foam.
The Comfortluxe CoolWave from Costco's online store is where I'm going unless TemperFlow replies with all the information I asked for and have an appropriate price for the queen size.
If anyone knows who the manufacturer is behind bedinabox or temperflow I'd be interested in the info.
PS: BOX FRAMES – SleepCountry USA has box frames for foam mattresses. So does our "local" mattress company. Both were $200 for a queen with upholstered sides so they look nice. $250 if you want a split queen box for easier moving. Otherwise, smoothed plywood on top of my old box springs is how I'm going to do it.
From Costco's description of the Comfortluxe:
Top layer: 1.5†of Cool Wave™ Memory Foam made using advanced open cell foam technology
So it is definitely open cell foam. You seem pretty knowledgeable on this subject. How does "open cell" foam differ from normal (I assume "closed cell") foam?
Guys,
Would you guys recommend I get the Comfortluxe over the Tempur-Pedic Deluxe Mattress?? With Costco.com, if I'm not satisfied with the product, will they pick it up? I'm buying a full-size and live in Los Angeles, CA (just incase it helps). Also, is maintenance a hassle with foam mattresses?
Yes, yes, no.
Costco.com will pick it up.
What maintenance? No need for rotating or flipping the mattress. Only maintenance I can think of is if you get the outer cover dirty, then you can unzip the cover and throw it in the washing machine.
What a long thread, but all very interesting. I bought a king size 8" foam mattress on ebay from Primo International before I discovered the Costco mattress, and it was too firm for my wife, so we went looking for a topper to ease the firmness. We found the 2.5" topper at Costco. We have now had two, and they both failed to expand at the ends. I tried the gentle rolling(using a rolling pin), and higher temps as suggested. Nothing doing. So, since we like the feel of this topper on our otherwise firm mattress, I guess we will now have to contact SI with some pics and hope for better results from them. I cannot recall if any Canadians have had success thru SI though.
Toby
Can you be more specific as to why I should go with the Comfortluxe over the Tempur-Pedic? Costo.com will refund 100%?? Also, why is it that Tempur-Pedic is the only foam mattress approved by NASA if they're both the same material? Or are they not? Last question, are foam mattresses generally better on platform beds or bed frames that require a box spring?
Thanks in advance!
I can't wait to buy this darn thing already… ah!
Well, I haven't heard anyone say that they felt the tempur-pedic was better than the comfortluxe.
Costco.com does refund 100%.
Tempur-pedic was the first company to create memory foam mattresses. This is why they're the most expensive, and the ones "approved" by NASA. There have the most brand recognition, and there used to be nobody else.
Foam mattresses do best with no box-spring. Platform or tightly spaced slats.
Nice, but 100% includes the shipping cost that was embedded into the total cost, right? Anyway, I just haven't ordered one since I wasn't sure at first, but now I am. The only thing holding me back is trying to find the right platform bed to compliment it, eh. I was thinking about those bow design platform beds, but I believe the 12" will be too much for it. I think bow platforms are designed for thin futon mattresses or something. Anyway, thanks again for your help! I'll put in an order soon. I think they take about a month to be delivered, right? Might as well, while I'm on the hunt for a platform bedframe…
Costco.com says it takes a few weeks, but mine came in just about one week. YMMV.
And yah, the 100% includes the embedded shipping.
I ordered mine on a Monday and it was here on a Friday. So far so good.
I'm still holding out for a sale on the Comfortluxe at Costco.com before the end of the month (Or first part of April). I noticed the last sale on the Elite series ran out this past Sunday(3-18-07)…
Was the Comfortluxe ever on sale? I don't mind paying the current price, but wouldn't hurt to wait for a sale, if one's actually around the corner… I'm still looking for the right platform bed to compliment the mattress anyway so I guess I can hold out a little longer.
Question: I understand that the mattress comes with a double-knitted cover, so can you still use another bed cover over it or would that hinder with the therapeutic effects? Also, is the mattress delievered in the same style box like the Elite version?
Just a bit of a follow-up regarding the Elite mattress topper ends not expanding properly. My first one did not expand, and after reading a post about gently rolling the ends and getting it into some warmer enviroment, I can report that my second one is now expanding nicely after only 48 hours. It is not yet perfect, and may never be so, but it is useable and will not be too bad under the cover.
I notified SI and got a response saying that if I cut a 12" X 12" square from it and send it to them along with the invoice and UPC code, they will ship me a foam only replacement. No way am I going to destroy something that I just paid almost $200 for until I see a replacement in my door. That request is pretty cheeky if you ask me. Where is the good will??? I already volunteered some digital pics as proof. I have seen too many things fall thru to do that.
From what I've read in this blog, I believe the Comfortluxe was on sale at the end of 2006 ($150 off) at Costco.com. "Rumor" has it might go on sale again soon…Time will tell…
I bought the topper from costco as well. Its been well over 72 hours and the edges are still messed up!! I had it on the ground near tile.. so im guessing it was too cold?? I have it someplace warmer now, does ne one else have some input on the expansion?
Get the topper into 80 F temps and it should expand. Tug and stretch at it every now and then as it rises. All that effort should be worth some sort of discount don't you think??
I called up sleep innovations to know about possible sale on Comfortluxe. The lady on the phone said they would go on sale in June since they were on sale at end of 2006. I guess they go on sale twice a year. I am also waiting for sale on comfortluxe but don't know if I can wait till June.
Quisp,
Did you hear about a sale on confortluxe sometime in April?
The question is, is saving $150 worth waiting 'til June? I don't know about you guys, but I'm buying mine as soon as I find a darn platform bed for it. Still on the prowl for a clean contemporary/modern bed… :/
Pari,
When I talked to SI a week or so ago, they indicated that a sale on the Comfortluxe via Costco.com would come soon, but didn't give any specific dates. My discount information comes from posts by Jody (October '06) and Laura (February '07) earlier in this thread:
"I took delivery on a queen NovaFoam Comfortluxe mattress yesterday (purchased online from Costco)during the $150 discount period. Total cost, approx. $787, including tax. It has been expanding for about 16 hours now and I can’t wait to try it out. I will post later after I have tried the mattress, but I confess, I did lie on it this afternoon for a couple of minutes, and it seems WONDERFUL!
By Jody on 10.20.06 1:37 pm"
"Quisp,
I tried to do the same thing, and wait, but, being the compusive buyer that I am, I couldn’t! When I was on the phone with Sleep Innovations, I asked if they knew when the next sale was, and they said ‘possibly’ March. So, your wait may soon be over!
Laura.
By Laura on 02.28.07 3:26 pm"
Albert,
Good point. I'm not sure waiting 'til June is worth $150. However, if I knew FOR SURE that the sale would begin in June, I might be able to hold out…It's the not knowing for sure that's troublesome…;)
Why isn't SI consistent with their sale date? Perhaps we should all keep calling until we get a solid date, eh.
Ach, I like the comfortluxe, but it is giving my better half a pain in the ribs. So, back it goes to Costco. I'll be receiving a Tempurpedic Deluxe model sometime soon, so I'll report back with the results…
LAURA,
Does your better half sleep on his side?
ALBERT,
From what I've read you cannot 'clean' a foam mattress. For instance, urine in the mattress is like pet urine in concrete. You cannot remove urine from concrete once it soaks in. Concrete, like foam, is actually very porous. One website talked about moisture in foam mattresses. They will absorb your sweat over time. One recommendation I got from a foam mattress salesman was to buy the Excalibur mattress pad because they are thin but water proof (and pricey at about $100 he said – but I can't find it on the internet so far). But they prevent moisture from getting to the foam without being so thick they void the foams response to body heat. Another thing I read is that all foam, including this memory foam, yellows over time but has no effect on the function. It's a chemical reaction over time. The foam is made by chemical companies – such as the German conglomerate BASF – which also makes car seat foam.
(I'm also looking for a memory foam office chair – best so far is Target but it was like $600! – ouch).
As far as the Comfortluxe "open cell" top layer here's what else I found:
"…the open-cell foam prevents the uncomfortable cradle effect of most memory foam mattresses…"
"…open cell is not heat sensitive and conforms immediately upon compression…" [all of them?]
"…open cell reduces heat build up…"
Heat sensitive memory foam (such as Costco's Comfortluxe lower layer) requires 5-10 minutes to react to your body heat and conform to your body.
TemperFoam.Com is off my list. Strange marketing – you email them for price info and they ask you to describe your sleeping. Then they email you the price for a "custom" mattress and say if the $1,700 is too much let them know, by email, and they can provide 'alternative' models. A bit too odd for me – just tell me what my choices are please and the price.
BedinaBox.Com is also off my list. They're mattress isn't cheaper because of their "philosophy" it's cheaper because they use lower density foam which uses less resin which makes it cheaper to buy the raw foam for bedding. However, they use foam made by BASF so I suspect it is a high quality low-density foam. They provide an argument against higher density foam for mattresses such as the original Tempur-Pedics but I'm sticking with the conformity benefits of the 5 pound density foams.
The Point: Costco's Comfortluxe is still on the top of my list.
Now I'm hoping their every 6-month sale happens (as I read above). The last one was in Oct 2006 so that implies the next one will be April 2007 for $750. The $150 off would almost pay for a very nice box frame too – I have a cherry sleigh bed I like and so I'm not converting to a true platform bed – I'll use a box frame instead of my current box spring.
That's all I know for now…. still reading (but not sleeping very much!).
DA,
Yes, my better half sleeps on her side…
Test drove 3 queen foam mattresses yesterday. The results:
(1) 9" True Tempur-Pedic: Absolutely loved the feel! Firm support yet felt very luxurious. 6" base foam with 3" of 5 lb foam with the Tempur-Pedic cover. After 5-10 minutes on my side my hip sunk comfortably into the mattress. Wasn't sure anything was happening until I stood up and saw the indentation. Liked the Tempur-Pedic pillow too but could see where both could get a bit warm (I run warm so may not be the best judge after only 10 minutes). $2400
(2) Sealy's 12" foam mattress: It was okay. Nothing felt bad. But it wasn't luxurious feeling like the 9" Tempur-Pedic. Also $2000+
(3) 12" Tempur-Pedic: Hated it. Felt like quicksand. Hard to move around at all. Too soft and "gooie" feeling for my taste. Has 2" more of base foam, then the same 3" of 5 lb foam, plus 1" of 7lb foam on top. The salesman said the softer/gooie feeling is because of the extra 2" of base foam but from what I've read is the 7 lb foam on the top layer. This bed felt like it would exhaust me trying to ever move in it.
The Comfortluxe has 7" base foam, 2" 5lb foam, 1.5" 6lb foam BUT has 1.5" open cell foam on top which prevents that sinking feeling supposedly.
BOX FRAMES: I was surprised – I thought they would be solid wood but they actually have springs in them (including the Tempur-Pedic box frame). Very square/stiff looking springs with cardboard across the entire top then covered with fabric. The cheapest box frame I saw was 1X2" wood slats with cardboard across the top. I think I'll make my own with smooth sided plywood and make it a split box for easier moving. The box frames ranged from $200-$500 for a queen.
PS: Per Sleep Innovations today: They sell their foam mattresses under the brand name of NovaForm via Costco and under the brand name of TempSoma via Sam's Club. I cannot find the multilayer version via the Sam's Club website.
PSS: The same bed at Costco online in Canada is US$863 (per yesterday's currency exchange rate).
The Comfortluxe is still top of the list for me. If that elusive sale pops up for $750, I'm ordering one.
Per SleepInnovations today (3/28): ComfortLuxe bed was on sale via coupon in December 2006, next coupon sale is most likely June 2007. The Oct 2006 sale was for a different bed and not likely to be on sale in April as I stated earlier.
BOX FRAME: Per SleepInnovations today, Costco's 12" Comfortluxe mattress does NOT have to be on a hard platform. Your regular box springs should work fine provided it is good shape, (i.e., the wood frame and slats "are not broken" anywhere). I specifically asked about adding a sheet of plywood on top of the box springs and she said it is unnecessary but it's okay to do IF you want a firmer feeling mattress – so firmness, not "foundation" per se, is the reason to add plywood on top of the box springs.
Ordered the Comfortluxe mattress 3/28/07.
Just curious, would the comfortluxe or any foam mattress work as a futon replacement on a sofa-bed? Still haven't ordered it since the right platform bed has yet to be found…
Albert,
I don't think so. You'd have a heck of a time trying to keep the foam folded, unlike a cotton futon, which folds fairly easily…
If you only want to use the futon frame in bed-mode I think it would work fine. It would definitely not work if you wanted to fold it and use it as a sofa.
Bought Novaform Elite two weeks ago. Still has ridge area along center and areas of uneveness. Mattress itself is too firm for either my wife or me (surprising for 4lb memory foam). Wife refuses to sleep on it any longer due to back pain. She sleeps on her side and mattress is too firm to contour to her body in that position. Probably better for those who sleep on their backs. In any case mattress is going back to Costco. Image Comfortluxe with denser foam would only be firmer. Will probably go with Tempurpedic Celebrity or King Koil foam mattress (both significantly higher priced, but King Koil is less) due to softer feel.
I'm awaiting delivery of the Tempurpedic Deluxe mattress. I'm still quite comfortable on the Luxe, being a back sleeper. I have to say though, when making up the bed, it's not a vision of flatness. It's disappointing, although i'm sleeping quite well.
Thought I would share my recent experience.
After reading this thread and other sites, my wife and I decided to purchase the Costco King Comfortluxe mattress. It is cheaper than any other kind mattress we found and more or just as comfortable as any other mattress we have tried (only tried a few heh).
We went with the Comfortluxe over the Cool and the Elite mainly because it seemed to be the best of the two. The Elite is a very firm mattress, which is what my wife wants, but too firm for me. The Cool is cooler, which is what I like, less firm, but not what my wife wants. So the Comfortluxe is cool and firmer.
We ordered the mattress on Sunday the 8th of April 2007. The thing was deliverred by UPS on Tuesday the 10th of April at 9:45am. So 2 days wait. Not bad at all.
However, I just want to state how stupid UPS are. The thing requires a signature. Thats fine. No one was home as we both work. So I call to see if I can arrange for pick up or should I plan on going to their depot to get it. They tell me its been deliverred and signed for and left at the Reception. Uh, hello, this is my home, we don't have a reception area.
So we get home and don't see a mattress. Turns out that a neighbor signed for it. Not a neighbor right beside us, but one 3 houses down. One I have spoken to 5 times in 3 years. This is VERY irresponsible of them. The box was open, she told me she had to make sure things were ok. I asked her how she could know if things we ok when she had no idea what it was?!? The funky wheel box feature that it is shipped with as described here was not there. I was pissed. While I assume she did it to be nice, people think she did it and noticed that she didn't like what was in it so didn't keep it. Needless to say UPS is getting a few phone calls and a letter.
Now, we set the mattress on our king bed frame. As we are upgrading from a queen, we don't have an existing boxspring. The wood slats on our new frame are 2-3 inches apart, so we got some smooth plywood pieces to make a solid base. Sounds logical to us, so we did it.
After 3 hours of inflating, the mattress looked good. Everything seemed to be moving fine. There is a ridge in the middle, but that seems to be normal as per what is said on this site.
Woke up this morning and it looks pretty much done, but that could just be our eagerness to sleep on it. We tried it out for a few mins and loved it. The corners seem fine.
I shoved my face in it and barely noticed a smell. So not noticable that I can't even say what it is.
So so far so good. Things moving as planned, mattress looks good. The only hitch is UPS, but then, the last 4 times I have delt with UPS i have had issues, so its no surprise that they got a neighbor to sign and flag her as my receptionnist. Morons.
I noticed an earlier message mentioned that Sleep Innovations indicated that their beds did not include PBDE's. Does anyone know if they are also free of formaldehyde?
I'll answer my own post. I received a response from Sleep International stating they do not use formaldehyde in their beds.
Its now Friday, we received our bed on Tuesday. Slept on it for a full night for the first time last night and it was great.
The bed seems to have fully expanded, no loose corners. The middle ridge has gone down pretty much all the way.
It is very very comfortable to sleep on. In our shopping around, we tried various mattresses from different stores and different brands and this one ranks up there with the top ones. Comfortable and forming at first, yet firm after.
When I used to wake up at night to flip sides, it used to take a bit of time to fall back asleep. With this mattress, I went right back to sleep.
We have a king, and regular king sheets fit fine on the bed.
One of the better purchases we have made in the last few years. Great quality, great comfort, and very good price.
Thanks Pierre and all the others for your reviews. I was all ready to take the plunge on a $2,600 tempurpedic until I found this site. I've now decided to go with the Novaform Comfortluxe. Given Costco's return policy, it's a no-lose deal in my mind. I'm going to wait until June, hoping there might be some special pricing. I'll let you know how the purchase went.
Tempurpedic vs Comfortluxe
I have to say, after 1 night on the Deluxe model of the Tempurpedic that there is absolutely no comparison with the Novaform. First of all, the bed is perfectly flat. Neither the Elite nor the Luxe version was ever flat. The Luxe started to show body impressions after about a month.
That being said, I slept pretty well on the Luxe, but my better half hated it. Most disappointing is the lack of flatness, and the apparent impressions starting after just 2 months.
Strangely, I slept cooler on the Tempurpedic that the Comfortluxe. I thought it would be the opposite.
I'll post again after a few weeks with the Tempurpedic…
Historical evidence suggests too much chance that the Novaform Elite 12" will not fully inflate, and I'm totally not interested in the hassle that returning it to Costco B&M would require.
So I have decided to try the hybrid solution as discussed on the Fat Wallet forums. Many have reported success with this formula.
Currently sleeping on a 6 yr old $2800 Spring Air Monaco King pillow top.
Depressions appeared early on and a hump formed in the center. 6 weeks ago we put a Novaform Mattress topper over top.
After a break in period, it now works well even over our crummy Spring Air, so I purchased a traditional Sealy King Mattress from Costco to go under our topper.
The Sealy is in the process of being made, so I look forward to reporting back on how this experiment works.
The theory is, you replace the mattress topper when necessary, rather than wearing the mattress out.
rdy3003 at yahoo.com
Just got our Comfortluxe today. Ordered it on Monday, it was delivered today and as soon as we slit open the plastic bag it was completely inflated. It was remarkable and it has NO odor.
We will sleep on it tonight.
I am sure we will love it!
Just contacted Costco to setup a return of our Comfortluxe. After a month of use, the mattress developed some serious body impressions on my side. I am a big guy 6'2 and 230lbs and the mattress doesn't fully recuperate after a night with me sleeping on it
I was hoping that this would be the answer to our mattress search, but unfortunately, we are back to square one. Thanks for all of the postings here!
Bryan,
I've tried the Elite and the Comfortluxe, and both developed body impressions quickly. I've had the Tempurpedic for a week, and so far, no impressions. So, l'm keeping my fingers crossed that they don't develop.
Just ordered the Coolmax queen through costco.ca. They now offer a 110$ price reduction on the King and Queen. So all those waiting for a price drop don't have to anymore. Can't wait for it to arrive.
FYI, Costco will refund the difference if you purchased a bed within a month of the sale price…
Just bought the king size Novaform Coolwave from costco.ca. Ordered it Sunday night, got it Thursday. By the way, a tip for those of you who don't want to take a day off work to receive the parcel: have it shipped to your local Mailboxes Etc. and for $2-3 they will receive it for you. Of course, you'll need a hand truck to move the box at home..
The king size Coolwave is about 135 lb.
I ordered Sunday night, technically before the $110 off was in effect but they gave it to me anyway. (I had no idea they were doing the discount – talk about a pleasant surprise when you get $110 off at the checkout page!) It arrived a day earlier than they figured it would, so that was nice. I'll post more after we open it up and get it decompressed.
I just purchased the novafoam coolwave king from costco for $110 off… well its one of the defective ones. All lumpy, corners do not decompress and my back is aching. 4 days after opening. I will be calling tomorrow to get them to come and pick it up for return.
After reading most of the posts here, I have decided to buy a comfortluxe. However, as some other folks I am willing to wait until June to buy it on sale from Costco. I was wondering if anyone one found cheaper price than Costco on comfortluxe (including various websites). Any feed back will be appreciated.
I've not seen the comfortluxe (or similar version) on any other website. Keep in mind the advantage to Costco is not only the price, but also their liberal return policy. I think the ease of return is especially important with a product like this.
I just saw today that Costo has Fresh Dreams memory foam matterss on sale for $550. Anyone has any experience with this one. I was planning to buy the comfortluxe. However, now I am thinking……
Costo' Fresh Dreams seems to be same as Costco's CoolWave (being sold on costco.ca). I am also now thinking to switch to Fresh Dreams instead of ComfortLuxe. There are some review about CoolWave model above. some people feel that its softer and some people feel its firm. So hard to conclude about feedback. Any comparision between Comfortluxe and Coolwave would be really helpful.
Based on the reviews above I also thing Comforluxe may be coming on sale from June 1st. As PARI mention and comparison between Comfortluxe and CoolWave would be very much appreciate.
If the CoolWave comparable to the Elite? 9 inch regular foam base with a 3 inch 4 lb memory foam top?
I've been eagerly reading this site for comments about the Fresh Dreams that recently appeared ON SALE on the Costco website.
A few people have mentioned June sales that may or may not include the Comfortluxe. Any reasons why you guys think there may be hope that the Comfortluxe will get cheaper?
I contacted the manufacturer and asked what the difference was between the Fresh Dreams and Comfortluxe. They basically gave me the foam breakdown, which I already knew. They did say no perceptable difference in firmness.
I'm not sure which way to go. Here's the response:
Thank you for your inquiry.
The Fresh Dreams mattresses are made using advanced open-cell foam
technology thereby increasing the amount of airflow keeping you cooler
and more comfortable throughout the night
The Fresh Dream mattress is 12" thick consisted of 3 layers of foam.
The top 1" is a coolwave memory foam with a 4lb density and an ILD of
12-14. The next 4" layer is a 5lb visco elastic memory foam with an ILD
of 12-15. The bottom layer is 7" of a polyurethane foam core. This
layer
has a 2lb density and an ILD of 40. This also has a removable
breathable
washable Coolmax cover.
The difference in the Fresh Dream and the Comfortluxe is the
comfortluxe
has a top layer: 1.5" Cool Wave(tm) memory foam with a 4lb density the
middle layer 1.5" has a 6lb. density of memory foam and the bottom 2"
layer has a 5lb density memory foam The base layer: 7" of high-density
conventional foam is 2lb density. The cover is removable and washable.
The mattress contains a 10 year limited warranty, which covers normal
wear and tear of the mattress. If your mattress fails to provide you
with normal wear for 10 years it will be replaced. Per our warranty
please hold on to the original sales receipt, as it will be required
for
a replacement.
The cover to the mattress is machine washable. Please follow the
washing
instructions located on the "law tag," of the cover. I believe the
washing instructions are to wash the cover in cold water on a gently
cycle and the dry on low heat which may cause the cover to take several
hours to dry. The mattress itself can only be spot washed. Please only
spot wash this mattress with mild soap and water. The mattress can not
be soaked as it is Polyurethane Foam and will only absorb water rather
than dry. This mattress can not be flipped as the memory is located on
the top 3" of the mattress. The mattress does not need to be flipped
from head to foot. If you have any further questions please do not
hesitate to contact me directly at the number below or via email. Thank
you for purchasing our product.
This site is very good and very good contributions from many people.
I just ordered "NovaForm® Queen Fresh Dreams" the total came to $593.99 (including tax). There is a $150 off sale on costco.com.
I'll post my review once I receive the product. I saw in the posts that there might be a sale on comfortfluxe in June. But I thought of trying 'Fresh Dreams' and if I am not satisfied I'll go for Confortfluxe.
Got the king size Coolwave last Thursday, opened it up Sunday afternoon and it's still got squished corners and the big ridge in the middle. (Granted, we have had cold weather here all week.) We'll try sleeping on it anyway, and maybe bring in the heater this weekend to warm the room up some.
We ordered a twin size Coolwave last week too. We opened it up on Sunday one of the entire sides is squished. I opened the cover and the layer of memory foam below the coolwave layer is "fused" A week later it is the same, so I've taken pictures and am going to try emailing Sleep Innovations directly to see if they'll replace it.
If Mike is still around, when you contacted them, was it by phone or email, and if email, is there any other email contact other than the form on their site? I figured the only way to send pics thru the form is to upload them to photobucket and send the links…
I can't speak for Mike, but when my ComfortLux wouldn't fully expand and started to form body impressions, I called Sleep Innovations on the phone. I had to return the mattress through Costco, no ifs ands or buts. I think that Mike was able to get his replacement through SI because he had gone through 3 or so replacement mattresses from Costco.
After trying both the NovaForm and the ComfortLux, and reading many of the comments here, it seems that the defective rate on the mattresses is really high. Now, I know that satisfied customers probably won't log their experiences, so the negatives probably appear higher, maybe…
But, after having the TempurPedic Deluxe for 3 weeks now (and I'm loving it) I'm beginning to think that the compressions of these matresses is the culprit. I think that they probably don't have these squished and flattened areas to begin with.
It would certainly complicate the handy delivery system they have in those boxes, but, really, it's an unpleasant process to return these matresses.
As for the TempurPedic, I guess I didn't realize what a difference there could be in the foam product. 3 weeks into the novaform and the comfortluxe, body impressions were becoming evident. Although I slept well on the luxe, my better half had rib pain. It's gone now, with the tempurpedic. It takes at least 3 weeks to soften up, and it really is an interesting transformation of the foam. Maybe it would have happened more quickly in the summer…
Cheers.
Quick poll – were the mattresses with decompression problems purchased online or in-store?
Novaform Elite: Purchased in the store–slight decompression problem.
Novaform Comfortlux: Purchased online — moderate decompressions problems.
I already posted my initial comments when I first got the ComfortLuxe mattress back in early April.
Its been about a month since we have had the mattress and both my wife and I are very very happy with our choice.
We had no issues with the corners inflating up. Actually, no inflation issues at all. However, we did have the ridge in the middle of the mattress when we first opened it. I believe after a week and a half or so the ridge went away.
I'm 5'10 and 180 lbs and I have had no issues with body imprints in the mattress. It goes back to regular look and shape in the morning when I'm done sleeping.
We do love our mattress. For the price we paid, we got a very good product, no issues (other than with the UPS delivery, but thats not a mattress issue).
So here is a happy customer posting his happy experience back up. I have this site bookmarked and I'll post another update in a while.
FYI, we ordered the mattress via internet, in Canada. Ordered Sunday, delivered Tuesday morning.
I guess my question kind a got lost in all the post. I was wondering if anyone can tell the difference between Fresh Dream and Comfortluxe. I am struggling which one to buy. Thanks
Mine was a Coolwave mattress, ordered online in Toronto
We just had our Fresh Dreams mattress delivered yesterday. It's packed in a plain cardboard box, folded in a "W" shape. It appears to just be stuffed into the box, although there must be some compression going on because it's only the width of a twin bed right now. We're going to get plywood tomorrow after work and set the bed up then.
Ok. Earlier I posted that I have ordered "NovaForm® Queen Fresh Dreams". We received it yesterday.
Today morning we opened the 'W' shaped bed and it popped up out pretty fast. All the corners came up well. Because the bed is folded into a box I see slight 'bump' in the middle all through the length of the bed. It's just less than 2hrs ago I opened it. By the time I am back from work everything I hope everything is ok.
We are planning to sleep tonight and I'll post my experience tomorrow.
Ok this question is for Laura, I was looking at the tempurpedic but then my friend told me about the costco brand. Is the tempurpedic a much different mattress that the cost is worth the experience. Also, Does the tempurpedic get hot? I read somewhere that it is not breathable, How about the comfort lux is that breathable? What is your opinion?
I will appreciate if you can also comment on the firmness of the mattress. I have aback issue and looking for the firm mattress.
Also just wondering which one is more firm,
Fresh Dreams Vs Comfortluxe
Anyone suggestions are highly appreciated.
Bought the Elite Cal King from Costco on Thursday. Although everyone says you must not sleep on it until fully expanded, the instructions inside said you could "immediately enjoy" it and that's what we did. I have back problems which cause me to wake frequently at night. The first night I only woke up once and was able to go back to sleep immediately. We looked at name brand foam mattresses which were $1800 or more on sales and I really can't tell the difference. My 2 year old yellow lab also approves
I bought a Novaform Elite about six weeks ago. It has never completely leveled out, with a slight longitudinal hump still evident. This aside, the mattress has definitely helped with lower back pain (osteoarthritis), but it sleeps incredibly "hot." Due to the fact that it has not leveled out (as well as waking up "on fire" several times every night), I am returning it to Costco (when I figure out HOW). I am now thinking about ordering the FreshDreams or Comfortluxe. As others, I am looking for a comparison of firmness as well as "coolness."
Gloria,
I would say that if you can afford it, get the tempur. We go the Deluxe, which is quite comfy. The only softer bed they make is the Celebrity, which is twice the price. It's not too firm or too soft.
Although I slept well on the Lux, it's really not the same as the tempur at all. The Lux didn't really take any break-in time, and began getting body impressions.The ridge in the middle, formed by the packing process, appeared to go away after a week or so, but then returned when the impressions formed. When viewing the mattress without sheets, it was nowhere near flat.
The tempur, on the other hand, is still flat as a pancake. And, after a month, it really is wonderful. It takes a couple of weeks to break in the mattress, which seemed weird to me, but it really does change significantly from the first night. It becomes softer and more pliable. I love it.
As far as sleeping hot, I slept hotter on the Elite (1 month trial) and the Comfortluxe (5 week trial) than I do on the tempur. I'm not sure if it's the Deluxe dual-layer base foam, or what, but I'm not hot at night at all.
I really think that the quality of the foam that tempurpedic uses is superior. I also think that if Novaform didn't compress their beds for packing, that their beds would be much less problematic.
All in all, if you can afford it, get the tempur.
Followup to my post on 5.10:
We opened the [Fresh Dreams queen] bed up at about four o'clock yesterday afternoon, and slept on it last night. We've had the windows open, so it was about 78 degrees in the bedroom. The bed expanded fully down one side (my husband's, naturally) almost immediately; the other side took a couple of hours. The corners on my side were both munched down pretty flat, and after reading this board I was a little worried. The bed came through, though. The only thing not completely "square" about it is my side, which is slightly off vertical. No big deal as of last night, and we'll see if it's resolved itself by tonight. I found the bed incredibly comfy and slept quite well, despite the fact that my preschooler isn't feeling well and kept me up past midnight. I have a recently diagnosed badly degenerated L4-5 disk, and I felt much better after a (short) night on this bed than on our 2-yr-old Sealy.
As for temperature, neither my husband or I had any problems with sleeping in a non-air-conditioned room. I made the bed up with everything I normally do, including the mattress pad. Didn't notice any more heat than with the innerspring.
Love it love it love it.
Also, for anyone worried about support on the edges of the bed…my husband is 6'1" and about 215lb, and he was sleeping so close to the edge of the bed last night I thought he was going to fall off. But he didn't
I weigh about 250 lbs. I'm sold on the ComfortLuxe, but should I even consider one of these for my weight? I'm worried that in a few months I will have permanent body impressions. Can anyone please comment who's had this mattress for a long time? I'm currently single and could theoretically alternate sides every night. Any alternative memory foam mattresses for heavier people? Thanks for your advice.
We purchased a Choices cover a week ago from Costco and took it out of the packaging and it still hasn't fully come out. One side just doesn't want to come out. Could it be a reject??
How long does it take to fill out?? Ours must be a reject!!!
If mine was any example, the poofiness it gets to in the first 24 hours as poofy as it will get…
I'm curious about these mattresses as well, but wonder about the durability issue. How long they will last before breaking down.
I've come across lots of comments on the net, from people who've mentioned that after 3-5 years the memory foam doesnt bounce back and it develops ruts in the areas they sleep on.
Anyone here own their's for that amount of time, that can comment on this?
I have had my Novaform for a little over 2 years now, and always sleep on the one side. So far I have not noticed any impressions or anything like that. I have rotated it 180 degrees once or twice since I have gotten it and it seems 90-95% as good as new I would say.
Purchased elite queen at Costco (in store) for $499.99. 24 hours later, the elite "marshmallow" is nearly flat – 99.99% (the speed bump is flattening). Odor is minimal, and dissipating. Comfort level is really nice – having psoriatic arthritis. Heat levels vary (and are tolerable) – back sleep, of course, generates more heat. Had strange dreams first night – could have been the odor from the mattress ;-].
We've been using ours for just over a week now. Other than a slight (and barely noticeable) difference in height between the two sides, it's very comfy. Despite getting less sleep than usual hour-wise, the quality is much better and I feel more rested.
Jennifer looks like you guys like your Fresh Dream mattress. I am still waiting on a sale for Comfortluxe. Who knows? Has anyone tested both?
just a follow up to my post about the twin size Cool Wave that didn't fully expand. I contacted Sleep Innovations by email, and they replied saying to return it to Costco first, but if we have any trouble with returning it, to email her back. So I decided to go that route first, and if I get another dud, then email back the rep (I now have a real person to email) and convince them to send me one from the factory.
Called Costco today, and they said that i can just cut up the mattress (we have a small car) to fit in the car, since they can't resell it anyway. She said she had to do that herself. I asked them about the chances of getting another mattress with the same problem and she quoted a return rate of 2%. She said they have very high turnover of these mattresses.
Anyway, the Comfortluxe are on sale right now, so we decided to get one of those instead and then return the current mattress once we receive it. Just did the order and I'll post a follow up when we receive it.
other than the lack of expansion, the Coolwave seemed pretty comfy. We bought it for our 2 year old son, but I have fallen asleep on it several times while putting him to bed, and I like it. Our own mattress is quite firm, and I do feel pressure on my body while laying on it, and don't notice that with the Coolwave.
We will likely be replacing our Queen size mattress with a memory foam, but we're probably going to buy at http://www.foamite.com as they will custom make a mattress with different firmness on each side. I need a softer mattress based on my weight and DH needs a firmer one.
I wondered if anyone has a suggestion for a waterproof mattress protector that doesn't interfere with the feel of the foam. I tend to sweat a bit when it's hot, and I could see it being a problem long term.
Thanks,
Matt
Check out the Tempurpedic site under accessories. They sell a waterproof cover that maintains the properties of the foam.
Chris from Vancouver here again with what appears to be a change in Novaform's packaging and a reduction in the time lag between when a mattress is manufactured and delivered to the end user.
About 6 months ago posted here about the king sized Novaform Coolwave (which I believe is the Fresh Dreams model in the US) I bought online and returned because the sides never fully decompressed and ridge a prominent ridge, that we called the foam range, ran up the middle of the bed. (I ordered online and Costco arranged for pick up and provided a full refund including shipping)
We subsequently ordered a second Novaform Coolwave and although it was less defective than the first (the edges were fine) and we enjoyed many good sleeps the ridge running up the center where the bed had been folded for packaging never went away.
And so, last week we decided to return the second king sized Novaform Coolwave and give it one last go but this time we ordered a Comfortluxe. I am pleased to advise that it appears Novaform may have learned from their rate of return experience.
Our Comfortluxe arrived quickly (June 1, 2007) but this time the packaging was different and the little tag located at the foot of the bed was date stamped May 23, 2007. The bed was not packed in a heavy foil material like the first two but instead a thin plastic bag stuffed inside a heavy tarp like plastic bag. What also differs is that bed was 95% decompressed in less than 3 hours and the foam mountain range that ran up the middle of our first two beds is gone. There is no absolutely no sign of a center ridge where the mattress had been folded for shipping.
Could it be that we received a "fresh" one? Was the mattress manufactured May 23 and delivered to us by June 1? Based on what appears to be a perfectly shaped bed I am left concluding that our mattress was all of nine days old. Again, no flat corners or wonky sides, no center ridge, it is now FULLY decompressed and we've only had it for 24 hours!
In the end, while there was some inconvenience in finally getting a perfect product the ease of ordering online combined with Costco’s return policy made it tolerable. I would guess that most people would rather avoid the hassle described above but for this chap when I consider the cost of a Tempurpedic the value definitely rests with Novaform – when the right one finally arrives.
I saw a brief mention of bedinabox.com. in this thread. Have been trying to find some mention of them, as their products seem very interesting.
Just missed the Costco special and still need a bed…
But no outside of their website reviews. And a security certificate flag comes up for them…which makes me wary.
Anyone ever done any biz with them? Their prices seem excellent and their product very well thought out, but no prices for various sizes????
Thanks for any info!
the saga continues…
we ordered a Twin comfortluxe, it expanded almost fully within a few hours….but the pink layer of foam (same layer that was compressed in the first mattress) did not expand. the edges were squashed, supposed to be 1.5 inches.
We just finished returning the Coolwave this past weekend, no hassles at the store. didn't even question that it was cut in 2 pieces.
my next step is to email the lady at Sleep Innovations again to see if she'll have one sent from the factory. I'm reluctant to try a third one from costco – so far we're O for 2.
So I've bought two of these mattresseses, an Elite and a Coolwave, both cal kings. Both were delivered in couple days via UPS no issues, both expanded perfectly with no issues, a bit smelly but went away in couple days. The Elite was first & had for about 6 weeks. I liked but the SO thought it was hot. So back to the store it went, no problems, easy Costco credit. Had the Coolwave for couple weeks now, she likes it. I think it is not as firm as the elite, and maybeeven hotter??? What to do?? The Comfortlux is made the same way as the Coolwave but w/ even more layers, more open cell foam on top, looks like it might be even softer? Looks like these go on sale at Costco every 6 months, alternating styles. May just get another Elite, seemed firmer and cooler to me? Anybody have similar experience; which is cooest & most firm?
Talked to the people at Bedinabox. Very nice, informative. Their mattresses are made by NCFI
Polyurathanes (www.ncfi.com) and the memory foam is made by BASF. All of it is made and assembled in the United Sates. I was inclined at first to go with a bed that has 4 to 5 pound density but after trying some of the higher density beds at furniture stores I found them too hard. I weigh 165 pounds, my wife is 128 pounds. I have not tried a three pound density but I believe it will probably work better for me. If the mattress is made of quality materials than I think it should last at least 10 years. My expensive spring mattress lasted 10 years with the last two years becoming very uncomfortable. After researching materials, cost, etc. I am going to try the Bedinabox.
Huh. Just tried posting a response to Pete's message and it never got there.
Higher foam density does not equate to a firmer bed. The measurement that you want to know is the ILD. The higher the ILD, the firmer the bed…
Cheers,
Laura.
Costco is advertising the Novaform Comfortluxe on sale ($150 off) between July 16 and August 5, 2007.
Hi Alice,
Where did you see Costco advertising regarding Comfortluxe sale? Are you referring to Costco USA or Costco Canada?
Thanks,
Pari
http://www.costco.com
Search on "Mattress"
USA
May be I am blind — I don't see comfortluxe on sale by Costco. The quess size price is still $900. Am I missing something?
I see the sale $150 off now. thanks
After 9 months with the King Novaform we have decided to return it to Costco. It has slowly formed depressions and has lost it's resilience. I have had 2 memory foam mattress prior to this and although this was by far the best one to date, I need better support after less than 1 year. The mattress also tended to be very hot on warmer days in spite of a thick, breathable mattress cover. Since Costco was so nice about returning the mattress (they offered to pick it up, or let me donate it to a charity) we will try the new top-of-the-line 17" Stearns and Foster mattress from them next; show me another retailer who would do that!
John,
Whick model NovaForm did you have?
I have a Fresh Dreams mattress (called CoolWave in Canada) that seems to be hot as well.
I suspect the Comfortluxe will also be hot since it is made w/ the same layers of CoolWave foam on top?
Anybody compared the FreshDreams to the Comfortluxe? Is the Comfortluxe hot as well?
Is the Comfortluxe firmer than the FreshDreams?
To use plywood on slats get 2 sheets of plywood 3/8 to 1/2 in thick depending on how insecure you are. Use one whole sheet "splitting" the slats and "piece in" the remaining openings. Then reverse the cuts with the 2nd sheet to add the second layer of ply. Turns out the same as a 3/4 to 1 in thick solid ply base. If you have to, add a slat on each end to support the ply. 5/8 ply is used for roofing and is very strong.
NICO,
Re: Comfortluxe vs Fresh Dreams (Cool Wave)
I've had both and find the Comfortluxe a bit firmer than the Fresh Dreams (labeled the Cool Wave in for some reason). See my post above on 06.02.07 at 1:02 pm.
I suspect I find the Comfortluxe firmer because it has a four layers of foam, one of which is a layer of 6lb density foam that the FreshDreams/Coolwave does not have.
Hey Chris,
Thanks for the reply. Did you notice any difference temperature-wise between the Fresh Dreams and Comfortluxe. I found both the Elite and Fresh Dreams kinda warm. Like you wake up in a hotspot where your body heat has warmed the foam. I have a regular mattress pad over the mattress and thought the "Coolwave" foam would make a difference, didn't. Almost seems like the Fresh Dreams is actually hotter, but could be we're in the hight of summer now.
Am tempted to try the Comfortluxe as it is going on sale at Costco next month and they have a great return policy. Also thinking about just going to the entry level Tempupedic, friend has one and has noticed no excess heat, but I haven't tried it myself. This heat business has become the main issue with these Novaform mattresses. And I usually run colder than most folks? Any body else find these things kinda warm/hot? Any heat comparisons between Comfortluxe and other memory foam mattresses, Tempurpedic maybe?
Thanks,
Nico
Does anyone still see the discount on any of these novform mattress ? i can't find the discount on costco website.
thanks
Ramz
Nico,
For some reason my wife and I find the Comfortluxe a bit cooler to sleep on and she is a "warmer sleeper" than me. No noticeable hot spots so far.
My father has a Tempurpedic that he loves and has yet to complain about hot spots. That said, he paid 2.5 times the price of our Comfortluxe and I would have ended up doing the same (buying Tempurpedic) had our third Costco order not worked out. You just have to love their return policy!
Chris
Hi can someone please inform is sale is still on ? I don't see it on costco site.
thanks
ramz
I just bought the Queen Novaform from Costco. And it delivered in 2 days from the time I ordered it! Luckily, I had the foresight to leave a note at my door saying, please try my neighbours if I am not home as UPS tends to deliver during normal working hours and I am a working man.
I was disappointed or maybe surprised at first when I saw the box, because there's no way a queen sized mattress would fit in there. But after opening the box, I inspected the packaging and realized that it is in fact vaccuum sealed for more efficient storage, shipping and moving purposes. Had to doublecheck that this was true and I found this page, which confirmed the packing method. I'm looking forward to my first night on this beast. I got a nice leather sleigh bed and I don't plan on using a boxspring with it.
JM
I just received my Comfortluxe two days ago and I have to say that it's a little bit firmer than I expected. It's actually giving me the back pain I had with my old regular mattress, but managed to eliminate with the use of the Novaform Choices Mattress Topper recently.
For those of you who already have a Comfortluxe, does it get softer over time? Would you say either the Elite or Fresh Dreams mattresses are better alternatives?
Ramz,
Costco has the Comfortluxe going on sale 7/16. You have to click on mattresses (under furniture) and then go to Passport Savings (under new items or limited time offers).
After sleeping on an old style waterbed since 1979 and searching for just the right mattress for about 3 years, I stumbled on this site and decided to try the Comfortluxe. Seemed like I couldn't lose.
I've had the bed for about 2 months. And I find it is slightly harder than I'd like, but then I've been rolling around on a waterbed for 30 years and really hate all hard mattresses.
I am finding as the weather heats up here into the 90s and 100s that the bed is a little warm if I don't have a fan or air conditioner on when I sleep.
I've seen the Novaform Choices Mattress Topper on Costco's web site and I've going to get that to see if that will solve the problem with a hard surface.
Thanks for this site. It's helped me a lot in taking the plunge to move on to a newer style bed.
And I'll keep you posted on how the topper works out.
I am thinking to buy the Comfortluxe King size from Costco when it is on sale on July. I recently purchased the king size bed and am wondering what kind of box spring will be best for the Foam mattress. I don't really have any carpenter skills, is there any place where we can buy the plywood platform/base? Or even the instruction to build plywood base would sounds great for me. Thanks!!!
I did tons of research on the mattress we decided to buy the Fresh Dreams King sized 12" thick mattress because I sleep hot. Bought it online from http://www.costco.com due to their fantastic return policy. The equivalent Tempur-Pedic is 2k plus and we got our Novaform for only $600ish. The mattress arrived in a deceptively small box weighing in over 140lbs, it took 3 guys and a dolly for us to lug it up our stairs. It does have a slight gassy odor from packaging that is almost gone after 3 days. It was virtually totally expanded in 24hrs, the middle has a lump for a bit due to the fold when they package it but is almost gone. We highly recommend it.
I'm starting my research and stumbled upon this site. I have a good but too firm queen mattress so I've been looking at adding a mattress topper. Right now I am leaning toward going with either the Novaform Choices Topper currently at Costco or the covered Isoform Mattress Topper at http://www.isoform.com. I am concerned both with the overall comfort of the topper as well as the amount of heat it traps as I am a 'hot' sleeper. Could someone please give me their opinions on what I should do. I'd also like to know how the two different sides of the NovaForm Choices Topper differ in feel.
Thanks,
Ben
I would try the one from costco, if you do not like it, they have a great return policy.
What is the difference between the Elite and the Comfortluxe? It looks like about $300 delta and I need to understand that there is a significant improvement in comfort, support, longevity, something for that kind of money.
Thanks.
-J
Great site/tread. I've read it all. *phew*.
I know that I am NOT going to buy an over-priced mattress from a place with no return policy. I read fine prints for some allowing only 1 exchange. No thanks. SO I am down to designing a custom bed through http://www.flobeds.com, getting the "Fresh Dreams" from Costco or getting the "NovaForm Choices Topper" and sticking it on my mildly firm mattress.
Making a custom bed via Flobeds sounds good from what I read. I guess you can change out the inner layers themselves to adjust the firmness level. Plus they are latex which I hear is less heat retaining, but I am not sure I want to spend that amount yet.
I love Costco's return policy though I never have had to use it so I am considering the Fresh Dreams when it goes on sale.
I have a few questions;
Do toppers help with the reduction in the "Heat effect"? And/Or do they take away from the comfort of the bed?
Has anyone used the NovaForm Choices Topper?
What are the opinions on it?
Would it be good on a medium firm mattress?
Does it have the "heat" effect same as the memory foam mattress itself?
I suspect most of the happy campers are resting comfortably and not really coming back here, but to those who do, thanks in advance for the answers…
And thanks for this site.. Great info.
Just bought a King Comfortluxe at Costco online on recommendations from here (hopefully the are all pretty good as I have only read the top half so far.) Just an FYI- these are on sale for $150 off July 16-Aug 5th, 2007. Fingers crossed. I'll let you know how our experience turns out.
I just got my Fresh Dreams mattress two days ago. To me, it is more comfortable than the Choices topper and infinitely more comfortable than the Comfortluxe. I just found the Comfortluxe to be too firm. The quilted cover on it is really really nice and high-quality, but it's so thick that it takes away the memory feel of the foam.
The Choices topper was really comfortable but I woke up feeling pretty hot in the morning.
Fresh Dreams is just perfect. The coolwave layer helps alot with getting rid of the heat. It's also nice and soft, but also extremely supportive. Definitely the best bed I've ever slept on.
There was some discussion about ILD earlier so I emailed Novaform to find out about the three mattresses Costco offers. Here's what I got:
Thank you for your inquiry. All three mattresses are med/firm in comfort. The Comfortluxe being the most firm. Here is the information on all three of them.
The Novaform Elite Mattress is our base model it is 12 inches, which consists of a 3" visco elastic memory foam top layer with a 4lb density, and a 9" Polyurethane Foam Core with a 2lb density. The top layer has an ILD of 12-14 and the bottom layer has an ILD of 40.
The Fresh Dreams and Comfortluxe mattresses are made using advanced open-cell foam technology thereby increasing the amount of airflow keeping you cooler and more comfortable throughout the night.
The Fresh Dreams mattress is 12" thick consisted of 3 layers of foam. The top 1" is a coolwave memory foam with a 4lb density and an ILD of 12-14. The next 4" layer is a 5lb visco elastic memory foam with an ILD of 12-15. The bottom layer is 7" of a polyurethane foam core. This layer has a 2lb density and an ILD of 40.
The difference in the Fresh Dreams and the Comfortluxe is thecomfortluxe has a top layer: 1.5" Cool Wave memory foam with a 4lb density the middle layer 1.5" has a 6lb. density of memory foam and the bottom 2" layer has a 5lb density memory foam The base layer: 7" of high-density conventional foam is 2lb density.
The mattress contains a 10 year limited warranty, which covers normal wear and tear of the mattress. If your mattress fails to provide you with normal wear for 10 years it will be replaced. Per our warranty please hold on to the original sales receipt, as it will be required for a replacement.
If you have any additional questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your interest in our product.
She didn't give the ILDs for the Comforluxe, but I called and she said they're basically all 12-15. I'm guessing the range is based on temperature- 12 when it's warm, 15 when it's cold. People are saying the Comforluxe is firmer, but it has 1.5" of Coolwave foam in the top layer vs 1" that the Fresh Dreams has. Since all the layers have the same ILD, I guess the density has to do more with how breathable or maybe how durable it is? Seems the Comfortluxe is firmer due to the cover (see above post by Brad). Well if this is the case, couldn't you just take it off? Maybe Novaform would sell you a CoolMax cover that normally goes on the Fresh Dreams. If the Comfortluxe really is the top model, and it's only $50 more than the Fresh Dreams, I'm going with it!
I'll report back with my experiences…
We had a good mattress, but too firm for older hips/shoulders, and I had a chronic bad problem. We put plywood on my side of king mattress, then 2 1/2" foam from Choices NovaForm Topper (left off the 1 1/2" pad), then another Choices Topper with pad on top – so total 5" of foam and 1 1/2" pad on top. The foam hasn't expanded all the way to the edges (about 2" on some edges and 4-5" on corners), but we are so comfortable that we don't care. Haven't slept this well in many years and my back doesn't hurt at all for the first time in years. The bed is very high and rounded on the edges, but not a big concern after years of back pain. $310 total added to the cost of a five-year-old medium-firm mattress.
Okay, finally grew a pair and pulled the trigger!
I just ordered the Queen Comfortluxe online for a total of $799.49. I wasn't expecting to pay sales tax, but if Costco has a "legal presence" in your state (a store or plans to build one) you'll be paying a little extra.
I just purchased the Comfortluxe on July 16 and got it at my door on July 18th! Thats amazing how fast they ship.
Anyway, I followed all the instructions and unpackaged it on top of my bed frame. Once I opened it up the first cover, I could already hear the whooshing sound. The bed seemed to almost fully expand once I laid it out. I turned on a fan and had it blown directly on it. Left the room and came back after 7 hours and this thing has fully expanded, even the corners.
I am sleeping on it now as I am typing this review and I must say, this thing is very comfortable but it is a little too firm for my liking. I was hoping it would be softer like their 2 1/2 toppers. I am going to sleep on it for a few more nights and give another review. May exchange it for the Fresh Dreams since others are claiming it to be much softer.
Total purchase price after $150 off was around $810 after tax/shipping.
I have read everything here (wow, just wow) and I am trying to find out the bottom line if possible before I get one of these Novaform beds. So let me get this straight: the Tempurpedics are a solid choice but expensive. All other foam, air, or other oddly made mattresses are questionable. And I don't think anyone is here because they want a regular mattress.
So we come to the Novaform. The Elite is not worth it. The Fresh Dreams (Coolwave) overall is soft, but is it a good choice? The Comfortluxe is firm, and is it a better choice? This is why I'm not sure what to get. I don't want a bed that is too firm but, according to the comments, the Comfortluxe is the best option. Yet some people had to get toppers for their beds. Maybe those people would have liked the Fresh Dreams more? If someone could weigh in on this comparison I would greatly appreciate it.
I had the Elite but took it back, my SO thought it was too hot. Then got the Fresh Dreams, it is going back too. I think it is softer than the Elite & we both agree it is even hotter. Not sure if I will get a Comfortluxe, I want firmer but the whole heat business bothers me. Seems maybe you sink further into the softer mattress and so hold more heat around you, increased surface area against the foam? Have used the same quilted mattress cover on all these mattress, doesn't seem to make any difference. It is summer in the desert here and I'm back on my old firm spring mattress, it's cooler than the Fresh Dreams mattress. The coolwave foam on top of the Fresh Dreams doesn't seem that cool to me. Friends that have Tempupedic report none or only minor heat issues and only in hight of the summer. Not sure what the difference in the cover or construction? Still pondering the Comfortluxe.
According to the manufacturer, there is no perceptable difference in firmness of either the Fresh Dreams (aka Coolwave) or the Comfortluxe.
For all those that say the Comfortluxe is too firm, I would say give it some time. There is a breakin period for memory foam, and it will get softer over time. Tempurpedic suggests to give it at least 2 months. Also on the Tempur boards, some have suggested walking around on it to speed up the process. I wouldn't give up after a few nights.
Also, my current spring mattress seems much firmer when I start to think about how firm it is as I'm lying on it(if that makes sense). I think rather than trying to "feel" the firmness, a better indicator of satisfaction would be to rate how you sleep through the night, and whether you wake up with any aches.
As far as the heat factor, it seems some people are more sensitive to memory foam heat. I don't think you'll be satisfied with any memory foam if you have found the Novaforms to be very hot.
There is absolutely a perceptible difference in firmness between the Fresh Dreams mattress and the Comfortluxe, despite what the manufacturer says. For one thing, the Fresh Dreams doesn't have the very thick cover that the Comfortluxe has, which really interferes with the memory feel of the foam. For me, it felt too much like a regular box-spring mattress even after two weeks. The Fresh Dreams, on the other hand, is just too comfortable.
Thank you all very much for the reponses. Thankfully, heat is not an issue for me. Since I am up in the air I am thinking that I will get the Comfortluxe while it is on sale rather than the Fresh Dreams and if it does not work out at least the swap will be easy. If I reverse it then I could end up wanting the Comfortluxe and the sale will be over by the time I know for sure what I want. I would prefer softer but I don't want to limit my options so quickly.
I have a foam topper already (not from Novaform) but I had planned on getting rid of it because, for all intensive purposes, I shouldn't need it. I did put a decent mattress cover over it at one point and found out it definitely makes a difference in the usefulness of the memory foam. So I guess I'll yank off the mattress cover on the Comfortluxe if needs be, but I don't understand why Sleep Innovations would stick on a tick mattress cover when they should know it affects the foam.
If anyone wants to weigh in some more on the comparison between the Fresh Dreams and the Comfortluxe I would love to know as much as possible.
I meant thick mattress cover. Hopefully Sleep Innovations doesn't use ticks.
Follow Up after last night's rest:
WOW I AM SO IMPRESSED!!! This bed feels GREAT! On my initial review, I said the bed felt a too firm; however, after sleeping on it overnight… it just feels wonderful. I don't have a problem with heat because the A/C is always on. Sitting on the bed doesn't feel all that comfortable but sleeping on it is a big difference. I will be more than happy to answer any questions anyone may have. I will be keeping this bed instead of the fresh dreams.
Also, the mattress cover is in fact very thick. I do not know if it is removable, I have not tried it yet. Anyone knows if it is removable?
Costco.com just came out with their weekly (?) email specials and the Comfortluxe (NovaForm) mattresses are on sale. I'm looking at the king for $150 off the regular price, now $850 incl. shipping.
oops, I see this sale has already been mentioned previously.
Aargh…I ordered on the evening of the 17th. FedEx has tried to deliver on the 20th and the 21st(!). Of course, they need a signature and we were at my parents, not expecting it so soon. So now I have to wait until Tuesday for a re-deliver. Happy for such quick service, sad that I missed the FedEx guy by 20 minutes yesterday…
I just ordered a queen size Comfortluxe from Costco after reading all of the comments. Question: How thick is this mattress? Should we use our old queen box springs with a piece of plywood over it, or just put plywood on the bedframe?
The Comfortluxe is 12". I plan to put some plywood on my current boxspring. Whether on the box or the bedframe really depends on how high you want it. The manufacturer says you can put it right on the box, but all my other research says not to do that.
I meant to say all my other research says put it on a flat surface. eg. plywood, not directly on the boxspring.
I just purchased the Novaform Elite from Costco. As of this morning the edges of the top memory foam layer has not expanded hardly at all, it's been set up for 15 hours so far. How long should I wait for the full expansion before I consider returning the product?
If it isn't expanded by now, it won't get much better as time passes.
Great site, the most informative one I have found re these Comforluxe matresses. Think I am going to take advantage of this sale on a queen size.
I am posting just to say how silly you guys are worried about cutting plywood for support. LOL. That is really simple, but even simpler, cheaper and easier is just go down to Ikea or somewhere and pick up an extra set or 2 of slats. Space them tight or slightly apart, problem solved.
The foam that is in the Comfortluxe topper is 4 Lb.
foam from Foamex which has a plant in Compton, CA and other areas. I was originally looking for a topper that was a 5 lb. foam by Foamex marketed as Sensus foam which is pink. I decided to go ahead and order the Comfortluxe topper instead and just received it. It's only been a few hours so the edges are still very compressed as it was extremely vacuum packed! I will update you to what happens next.
Thinking of ordering a Comfortluxe queen from Costco but not sure of the Costco return proceedure if needed – Do they send a truck to pick up the return mattress as is – without packaging – or do you have to wrap it somehow? Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks.
RB
Ron,
Yes, they send a truck to pick it up. No packaging necessary. Takes 3-4 weeks to arrange the pickup and another couple of weeks to receive the refund…
Laura.
We have the Comfortluxe right now but find it too soft. I'm confused as to why so many people find that it is too firm. We really like soft beds but we found that this mattress gave us a sore neck when we woke up. My wife now uses a pillow between her legs and she says it helps a bit.
We live in Yukon (beside Alaska) in Canada and Costco has no problems with us returning the mattress. A freight forwarder called us and will be picking it up from us soon. I wonder what they plan on doing with it since it'll cost so much money to get it shipped back down south.
We are thinking of trying the Coolwave (Fresh Dreams in Costco USA) but am worried that it'll be even softer as mentioned above. Does anyone have any suggestions?
The heat was never an issue on the Comfortluxe. I wonder if the Coolwave will be just as cool?
I bought the original Elite mattress, and received it one week ago. I must have received a fairly new one as it fully expanded within 6 hours. The smell was somewhat bad but dissipated after 6 days, I also bought the mem foam pillow to go with it.
So far I am very happy with it, solved my lower back aches in the morning. It is firm but not crazy firm with still a fair amount of give. I am 6'2" and around 190 lbs. and it seems to work for me so far. I hope it lasts and holds its original structure.
Cheers from Vancouver, B.C.
Ordered a Queen Comfortluxe on the 18th, received it on the 25th on the first delivery attempt. I noticed the tag on the bottom says it was manufactured on July 21, so they must be selling a lot of these.
Gave it 24 hours to expand and slept on it for the first time last night. All I can say is this thing is FIRM! We have a new set of sheets and a new mattress pad, which in addition to the cover that comes already on the mattress, reduce the softness and cushiness of the foam. (By the way, the cover that is on the mattress can be removed by means of the zipper that goes all the way around on the bottom.)
Anyway, my 7-months pregnant wife slept great last night. She definitely did not get up or toss and turn like she did on our previous sagging, worn-out, long-overdue-for-replacement mattress, which was a full size. I noticed this because unfortunately, I was the one tossing and turning all night. I know you can't make a valid assessment after just one night, but first impressions from me are that it is way too firm to be comfortable. And with an often sore back from an injury 10 yrs ago I normally like 'em firm…
Anyway, I'm going to give it some time to break in, some time for me to get used to it, and experiment a little with different pillows or maybe even removing the mattress pad or the cover.
I'm not ready to trade it for the Fresh Dreams just yet!
I'll let you all know how it goes…
I bought a comforluxe queen. Yesterday I left it expand for 14 hours and slept on it. It was great. No smell, little bit on the firm side but good for my back. Only little problem I had was if you follow the direction and cut the vacum bag you have to turn over the mattess after expanding.
I bought a Symphony Teperpudic pillow. I don't like it becuase it's kind of thick. I need a thin pillow. Do anyone know what would be a good thin pillow?
Thanks everyone for your feedback on this site.
Hi
Guys I am think of buying this novaform confortlux cal king size online.
My only concern is: If I do not like this product and if I need to return this, how would I put this mattess in the package again for themail guy to pick it up again
Thanks
Aleady Laura replied to my question
UPDATE from 7/23 Post:
The NovaForm Elite, as expected, never did expand around the four coners or one side lenght after a full week. I believe there is something in the manufacturing/packaging process attributing to the problem, as other off brands have not experienced the issue.
I was in a dilema for two reasons: One, I did not want to try another Elite from Costco in the same batch and go through the hassel of lugging the mattresses around again in fear of the same result. Two, I felt the Elite was just to firm, as we did sleep on it albiet the corners were not expanded.
My decision was to return the Elite to Costco, and purchase a Termpurpedic from a local store. When the local store delivers the Tempurpedic, they will take the old Elite down from the second floor, wrap it in plastic, folded into thirds, and place it in my minivan. All I have to do is drive it up to Costo.
We chose the Tempurpedic Deluxe at a little four times the price I paid for the Elite. I honestly think you get what you pay for. Although we haven't slept on the Tempurpedic in home yet, from the test run at the store there just wasn't any comparrison to the Elite. With that said; there shouldn't be much of a comparrison, as the Tempurpedic is four times the cost (much of that high price is paying for the brand name).
In efforts of giving the NovaForm Elite a fair assessment, I did get what I paid for in that instance. I could've replaced the Elite with one from the manufacture to eliminate the edges problem, but it would've been still to firm. For what I paid for the Elite, I felt it was of good value to price. I just decided to go all out and pay for the premium quality and performance of the Tempurpedic, figuring my body would thank me in the long run.
I will post another update, out of fairness and closure, after sleeping on the Tempurpedic in home.
Ron,
I did the same thing, after trying out an elite and then a comfortluxe. The one thing you must do is walk all over the bed each night for a week or so. The foam takes a little while to 'break in' and you'll notice a huge difference between first night you sleep on it and 3 weeks later. It goes through an interesting transition, from firm, to 'sticky' to comfy and soft.
Good luck!
Laura,
Thanks for you advise. How much time did you spend walking on the bed each night? I have a 5 year old, whom I'm sure will gldley handle this task.
Well, it's a more difficult task that you'd think–quite a leg workout actually! I think I spent about 10 minutes, in shoes, methodically tamping the bed. Think flower beds!
And, surprisingly, it actually made a difference…
Comforluxe is great. I found it almost as good as Tempur-pedic based on the price you pay. Just recenly bought one and love it. Any suggestion for Pillow? Are the pillow from Novafoam good?
Mike,
Be carefull, as pillow preference is very subjective. With that said, I wouldn't trade my tempurpedic pillow (standard form, not neck pillow)for the world. They run about $150.00.
Laura,
Ten minutes a night; sounds good, tahnks. I was mostlykidding about the 5yr old, but he will be right along side me. I'mnot a flower bed person, and therefore not sure what you meant. I'm guessing working in rows and columns, covering the entire surface.
Mike,
I forgot to mention, I did try off brand pillows also. I found the name brand to be superior. Again, just a subjective opinion.
Ron,
Yep, that's exactly what I meant–and, it can't hurt for the little guy to jump around on the bed!
Check back in–I'm curious what your impressions (hah!) are. I love mine.
Hurry people, there is a $75 discount in the coupon book at Costco for all Novaform mattresses. I think it ends next week from this date (correct me if i am wrong). I love my King and got a lot of discounts from being a executive member. Great support and comfort but as many have said, i worry about long term issues.
I've been reading a lot of comments and reviews on the Comfortluxe (and memory foam in general) and there's one topic that I haven't seen mention of: sex. I'm curious because I've 'kicked the tires' on some of these mattresses in stores and it seems like they might increase the level of difficulty. I don't need details or anything, but maybe some feedback on whether it has been easy for you guys to adapt or if you're missing your spring mattresses? I would REALLY appreciate some honest feedback because I'm about ready to pull the trigger on one of these. Thanks.
Guys,
I have ordered comfortlux king from costco.com and now I need a high profile box for this mattress.
Are the boxes for memory foam mattress any different from the spring/normal box
I do not want box spring for this but something which is elevated and has a flat surface.
The ideal would be:
PLy Elevated at 20 inches .
How can I buy ply from homedepot?
would they cut it ?
if yes then it is feeasible to get it cut into three pieces so that I can get it in my midsize sedan ?
How much would they cost for king size mattress.
Thanks
Deepak
Ryan, dude, read the first part of this post and you will fine all the info you need.
I have a very old bedstead I'm thinking of trying to stuff a full sized comfortluxe mattress into. Anyone have an opinion as to whether I could stuff 75" of mattress into 72" between headboards? Would it become impossible to life in order to change sheets? TIA!
How about cutting the mattress? Would it be possible to cut it down 3" do y-all think? I suppose that would be a problem mattress-cover-wise. Is that mattress cover necessary? Probably…
You might want to cut 3.25 inches off and fold the cover into the extra .25 inches?
Either that you you could try just jamming it into the smaller space before cutting it. It bite kind of fold upwards when no-one is on it, but when you lay on it, I think it would be fine.
I think you are safer to try stuffing it before cutting it.
Yup — I agree *trying* the stuffing before cutting makes sense. But I'm wondering whether cutting would ever become an option? Would I need a handheld jigsaw with an especially long blade, for example? How to do such a thing?! i.e., *can* it be done??
And then I guess I'm also wondering from anyone who currently has one of these monsters, whether you think there's enough give for the stuffing option to be viable. (Can 1.5" be compressed on each end easily or would I need to be a weight-lifter?)
Also, since at least one person mentioned still having the shipping box, would it be possible for you to please measure the box? Presuming they all arrive in the same size box (I would be ordering a full), it would be helpful for me to know the dimensions as this old house has a very small opening space in the stairwell (people were smaller way back when).
Thank you all!
Your best bet is probably one of these:
http://www.hhhh.org/~joeboy/resources/hotwire_foam_cutter/hotwire_foam_cutter.html
You might also be able to compress it down far enough with a 2×4 and then using a heavy duty box cutter.
Regarding the size of the box, depends on the mattress, mine was a full size and I am guessing something like: 3' x 3' x 2'.
You could force the mattress through the door after you remove the outer box I am guessing.
check out this too: http://ask.metafilter.com/39487/Cut-memory-foam-pad-still-comfy
Thanks very much for the links and sizing info!
Did anyone ever acquire any knowledge to share about setting this mattress in an unwinterized cottage? I gather these mattresses really do have a quantifiable shelf-life, similar to, nominally, box springs. However, box springs can and are used long after their nominal lifespan. How about memory foam? There are reports of it just cracking. Would freezing temperatures hasten this? Or with time and loss of its "memory" feature would it just resort to being like any-old heavy-duty foam?
So I went for the Comfortluxe. I ordered it online and received it within 7 days. It came in a big box but had no tag indicating when it was packaged.
I just set it up. I stuck it on the bed and as soon as punctured that vacuum seal the sucker started to inflate like a self-inflating raft but I quickly got it into place. Though it is in a mattress cover it sure looked like it expanded to practically full size within minutes including the ridge flattening out and the edges rising. I live in Florida and have a sliding glass door for a window so I opened the blinds and shut the air off. Hopefully the heat will help aid in a quicker expansion. I also tugged at the mattress cover to make sure the edges were not being held down by it. Very little smell.
It does feel firm but I'm gonna say that it will soften up over time. I hope to be sleeping on it tonight. I will update you all on my opinion soon.
One week now with a Novaform ComfortLuxe and it is NOT going to be returned. I'm a side sleeper and the side I prefer has a bum shoulder (impinged rotator cuff). My innerspring mattress often proved quite painful. This is definitely easier on my shoulder.
I think that if you sleep on your back, any good mattress would likely be ok, but for side sleepers, the visco-elastic experience is better as the mattress is not pushing back at you, as an innerspring mattress does (when you compress a spring, it tries to return to its original shape with the same amount of energy that was used to compress it).
After a visit to a local mattress store today, I think the Novaform ComfortLuxe is roughly comparable with the TempurPedic Deluxe and while I'm sure the TempurPedic is worth every penny they get for it, I can go through three or four Novaform ComfortLuxe's for the price of the TempurPedic.
We just got our Comfortluxe and have it set up. It looks like it's expanded, but the cover is a little wrinkled in spots. I think we'll let it continue to expand tonight and sleep on it tomorrow. I have a sensitive nose, but the smell doesn't seem too bad. Stay tuned.
Got the King Comfortluxe about 2 weeks ago. No issues with inflation, ridges, pulls or separation. This thing is a keeper. I can finally sleep on my stomach again and not be crippled the next 2 days! Amazing. I wish I had bought one of these years ago. Thanks to all above who took the time to post your great opinions. Much appreciated! What did we do before the web?!?!
Mike
So we finally purchased the queen comfortluxe on the last day of the sale. It was delvered in 3 days. I was a little concerned after opening the box and seeing what looked like a cot mattress in a plain gray bag, sitting in a brown shipping box. Inside was a photo copied sheet with unpacking instructions. For $800 I would have expected some color brochure, instructions, a warranty card and maybe some fancier packaging. These guys are not much for marketing I guess.
After setting it up, I was surprised to see it almost fully expanded in about 30 minutes. After reading all the reviews here, I was expecting maybe a problem, but definitely a day or two of expansion. We were going away for the weekend, so I left the fan on exhaust and said goodbuy to my bed.
Two days later we returned. The mattress was completely expanded. There was a very slight smell, but only if you laid face down on the mattress.
With all the complaints here about the firmness, I was expecting a slab of cement. I did not find it too firm at all. It felt similar to a firm pillow top. I found it very comfortable after only 1 nights use. I will follow up with more after we've used it for a while.
My only complaint is that there is no side (edge) support, ie you can't sit on the edge of the bed. I suppose that's the nature of the beast and all foam mattresses behave that way.
Overall I'm happy with the purchase so far.
Does anyone know if Costco is backordered on the Comfortlux in queen size?
I ordered ours on the 5th of Aug and here it is the 13th and it is still not showing as shipped. I suppose it is ok cause my card has not been charged either.
Later,
-J
I ordered a full size comfortluxe in Maine (I suspect you should specify where it was shipped to; that's got to make a difference)on 8/3/7 and it arrived 8/9/7. Pretty impressive.
It arrived in a 2'x2'x5' box or so. I think the box may be the same for all sizes as ours wasn't filled out up top. The mattress is compressed and folded in four. It's not easy to tell which way is down, but the bottom appears a little 'nubblier' than the up side. Do try to position the mattress correctly before you open that critical inner bag. It's awfully heavy to try to flip once it's inflating. To hear that fun sucking sound, open the inner bag slowly. It helps to have two people present to help pull out the bag from underneath.
Ours didn't smell great when it came out, but not overpowering. It inflated about 85% of the way immediately. One long edge was slanted and remained that way for a couple days. The smell dissipated quickly. After two days I thought things were OK to sleep and I put on sheets. However with the additional "trappings", I think the smell became trapped and it only took a minute or two lying down to figure out things needed an additional day to air out. By the third night things were good enough to sleep on. Not great but good enough — we were psyched! I had my kids jumping and stomping and kneeding the bed in an effort to help dissipate the smell and help that last edge expand. I think their efforts helped. It's not been terribly warm since the mattress arrived and I think that matters. Were it hotter things might have been proceeding more quickly.
So far we're really happy with the mattress. Though I wish it were a little firmer too. I'm going to try two pillows tonight and see if that helps. I don't know whether a terrible neck ache is related to the new mattress or not. With Costco's return policy I'm not too worried about it all though. I'm really happy we bought the thing.
Oh — most important, though not sure how general. Our very, very old bed frame is a non standard size — 2 inches shorter all around. I was thinking to cut the mattress, but it turns out the mattress does compress adequately and is sufficiently light that it's easy to lift the mattress out of the frame to make the bed. The old mattress that was formerly there weighed seemingly hundreds of pounds and was rigid so lifting it out was hazardous in many ways! This is a vast improvement. I was thrilled to discover we wouldn't even need to cut it down — a relief! I would not have hesitated so long had I realized this.
Also, that old, old bed was originally intended for ropes — there's no bottom to it. We set plywood flooring across the rails. We needed to fit together two sheets and the tongue-groove helped with this. It's more than 3/8" — not sure why the previous poster suggested two 3/8" boards — flexibility perhaps? Hope this more rigid bottom isn't a mistake. So far it seems Ok. Only thing I'd do different is maybe use better-finished plywood as I'm a little worried about the rough plywood catching the sheets. So far it seems OK though as you do lift the mattress to put the sheets under. We'll see how long that lasts…
One last variable of interest: we perceived no hindrance to sex as we know it at least (rather unenergetic, frankly). I think many of us have been just over-thinking the whole thing frankly!
Thanks for the site, the encouragement, and the information, Mr Werty!
J,
I ordered a King Comfortluxe on August 4 and the order is still processing. The website states 10-15 business days. But it is interesting how Michael from above ordered on the 5th and received it in 3 days? I am just hoping that our mattresses are "freshly" made!
~ JC
I ordered a full on August 4 and I still didn't receive it yet. The status still said in process.
What is everyone using for the base? I put some plywood on our box spring, but I notice that the whole mattress and platform moves when someone tosses, since the boxsping still compresses.
I'm 6'4", 230 lbs with a very bad back. My wife is 4'11" and has had fibromyalgia for 18 years. We've slept on memory foam for many years now.. first on a generic, homemade mattress in a home in New England, back in the days when one either bought Memory Foam and made one's own mattress, or one took out a second mortgage to get a Tempurpedic. Now we live in the southern Bahamas and sleep on a Novaform Elite queen. In those dozen years I've learned a great deal about memory foam mattresses. Here, in no particular order, are a few of the things I've learned:
1. Memory Foam (mf) is a wonderful sleep surface for most people.
2. mf is not for everyone.
3. The only way to be sure whether mf is for you is to sleep on it FOR A MINIMUM OF THIRTY DAYS. Your body needs time to adjust to this new surface you'll be putting it on every night.
4. mf does not generate heat. It only absorbs your own body heat. I do know a very few folks who've been completely unable to sleep on mf because they feel hot. (funny though, most of the one's who make this comment when they first sleep on mf end up keeping the mattress and loving it, see #3 above)
5. mf responds to your own body heat. It's firm in it's natural state, then it softens up as it warms from contact with your body. That process takes at least five minutes, so it will feel real firm when you first lie down. Then it'll soften very, very gradually, as you fall asleep. So, don't judge the mattress by the way you feel when you go to bed, judge it by the way you feel the next day. (remember #3 above)
6. Many of your questions concern what type of covering you are considering putting on your mattress. Consider this example: The mattress feels too firm or too warm or too whatever, so you put a wool pad, or a foam pad or whatever on top. Now, let's look at what that does to the effect of your body heat on the mf mattress itself. You've now introduced an insulator between your body heat and the mattress. The mattress can now longer soften the way it was designed to. (see #5 above)
7. A word about sex on an mf mattress: it's no better or worse than a conventional mattress. It's different, but it's so slightly different that it's not even worth considering.
8. What to put the mattress on? Our first mf mattress was on a waterbed frame (solid plywood). Our present one is on a box spring. Not much different, no big deal. I would not even consider putting any kind of foam on slats.
Overall, in my humble opinion, the only way to find out if mf is for you is to try it! (see #3 above)
In conclusion: Keep it simple. Don't fall victim to the paralysis of analysis. If you want to try it, try it. Who else but Costco would give you the opportunty to try a top quality mattress like this, at a reasonable price and with a guarantee of your money back if it's not for you.
Wow, thanks Dave, that is great feedback!
This forum really helped me go for it and order it online. Got it quickly. Very heavy to haul upstairs in the box (king). It didn't have any weird odor, the center fold disappeared quickly and it's great. All the corners expanded just fine. It's soft to the touch but firm. I was worried it would be too soft to sleep on but it hasn't felt that way. It took a few days not to be aware that I was sleeping on something different but now I really love it. I don't wake up with a back ache anymore and my hands don't fall asleep while I'm sleeping. There's just less pressure on your joints and bones. It's nice and thick too and nice looking (comfortlux). And it hasn't been hot. I haven't covered it with anything but a sheet because it didn't make sense to cover the foam which reacts to your body heat. Hopefully we won't have any spills. Go for it. Great return policy. Now what do I do with my old mattress?!
I read this whole page. I'm about to buy NovaForm® Elite Memory Foam (EMF) Mattress (Queen or Full). It suits me – I sleep cold and need a soft bed. Looks like many of EMF mattresses have problems with expansion (around the corners mostly) but the mattress itself is good if fully expanded. Should I reconsider FDMF (Fresh Dreams Memory Foam)?
Please let me know. Thanks.
I bought the king novaform from costco about 6 months ago…best move we ever made. No more hip, back or shoulder pain when I wake up. Bought the queen last week for the spare room and it's just as great.
Rita, online or store?
We're considering a king ComfortLuxe or FreshDreams (FD). We're having trouble deciding between the two. It's only $100 difference, so it's not the money (though saving $100 is always nice). The Luxe looks to weigh 20 lbs. more, eluding to more density in the foam. The FD has the CoolMax fiber top, which is wish the Luxe had.
I am wondering what the difference in comfort level, support, heat dissipation, etc. will be and also durability and overall value… anyone have any input on this? Thanks in advance.
I purchased the Novaform Comfortluxe about a month ago during the Costco sale. The mattress is one of the most firm memory foam mattresses I have slept on. I made the purchase because of this fact, which I discovered through the comments on this site.
My mattress arrived in a vacuum sealed bag inside a large cardboard box (there was no inner box, so be careful about slicing open the box). Throw the mattress on the bed and carefully cut open the bag and let it expand. I have a platform bed.
The mattress was fully expanded in a few hours. It took about a couple weeks for me to get used to waking up with a warm back, so lately I've instead toyed with my thermostat and now I've been waking up more comfortably.
The mattress is very comfortable; almost reminds me of a firm spring mattress with a pillow top.
After 3 days of research, I finally found my answer to an inexpensive mattress that cost way less than a Tempurpedic. I used to work for a mattress company so I know a little about these things. First off, the cheap foam actually is made in China. If the mattress has foam that was made in China, you're getting bad quality. I needed a good mattress but I wasn't about to spend $2000 for a queen Tempurpedic Solutions mattress. Then I found Costco's brand- Novaform Elite. I just finished laying it on my mattress platform and it really is a nice bed. The foam is amazing- especially how it takes form in just minutes. My mattress had zero odor, unlike earlier posts where they complained of the chemical smell. Novaform must have taken care of this chemical smell problem. I layed on it and let my body relax in the mattress. It feels exactly like The Solution by Tempurpedic. I'm looking forward to a good night sleep since I have a bad back injury and haven't been sleeping well lately. I will definitely post something over the next few days to let everyone know how my mattress is doing. Thanks for a great site!
I just woke up from my first night of sleep on my new Novaform Elite mattress and I have to say that its the most comfortable mattress I've slept on in years! I like how it cradled my body and that when I got out of bed, the mattress went back into its original form. My dog, Mocha, didn't want to get out of bed either! He just layed there and enjoyed the mattress just as much as I did. If you're looking for an affordable and dependable mattress, get the Novaform Elite. Its not too soft nor is it too firm but enough firmness for support. The heat issue isn't that bad. And there is absolutely no chemical aromas from the mattress. I'll definitely keep everyone posted on how this mattress is working for me. Thanks!
I read through most of these comments before I bought the novaform and decided to go with it, so thanks everyone. I've been using the mattress for 3 days and its so nice. I started off using my old down pillow and that was putting a kink in my neck (which i used to also get on my old mattress). I picked up a memory foam pillow from target and I have zero neck pain. Another thing that totally took me by surprise happened. When I used to roll over on my old bed, my shoulder would crack and feel really uncomfortable. Last night I rolled over on the novaform and there was no cracking or discomfort. AMAZING!
I have been on my Comfortluxe Queen for a week now. I was a little stiff after the first night, but that is probably because it is so comfortable that I did not shift or move much. Initial smell was very faint and dissappeared after 24 hours. The slight ridge down the middle vanished after a couple days.
I am a hot sleeper and was worried about heat. I was worried about nothing. This bed is fantastic, and the sale is over but it is easily worth the money anyway. Especially compared to the tempurpedic.
The only drawback I can see is that the mattress will be a bitch to move. After it inflates, you will need at least 2 people to relocate it outside of the room. I highly recommend this mattress as an alternative to the Tempurpedic.
Hi………. can any long erm user give their opinion here. I see opinions after one day, or few days. But how does it feel after 6 months? os few years. BTW I am talking about Comfortluxe
Bought the costco Novaform mattress this past Saturday. Followed the directions exactly and let it expand as necessary. There was a huge lump down the middle where it was folded as well as the end of one side was much lower than the other. After 3 days of letting it expand…the crease (lump) is better but still there. Also the side that was down is still down. Needless to say…this is going back to costco. I have no idea how I am going to get it back…but we'll figure it out. We bought this because of my wife's back problems…which were not helped by this mattress…I was really hoping it would help…but it was not meant to be. Personally I like it…but then again…I can sleep on just about anything.
For those of you who are discouraged that your mattress doesn't seem to be expanding right I offer this tale:
When I posted earlier I neglected to mention that our mattress also had a ridge down the middle and that two spots at the ends failed to expand for three or four days. Since we live on an island in the Bahamas we were unable to exchange it to Costco without paying a fortune for shipping, so I was very determined to find a solution to make the mattress recover its shape.
I reasoned that body heat was needed to soften the mattress at night, so maybe it would help flatten the mattress If I could heat it to near 98.6F.
We don't have any heat in our houses here, so I just waited for a very warm day (didn't take long), and I shut off the AC in the bedroom, took off the bedding and cover fabric, and I opened the drapes on the south facing windows to let in more of the sun's heat.
It took all day, but the mattress was nearly perfect by the end of the day. I repeated the process a coupla days later and it was perfect in no time. It was easy and painless.. less work than even getting the mattress out of the bedroom once it had been released from it's packaging.. certainly infinitely less work than carrying it to Costco (even if I'd lived right next door).
Hope this little story helps someone else.
I researched and researched and finally purchased the Novaform Comforluxe Cal King from Costco. I will also agree with loads of you and say that UPS is so lame and I had a big problem getting it delivered…not Costco's fault though. I ordered my mattress online and got updates as to where it was in the shipping process. The Cal King Novaform weighed 150lbs and was very hard to move. I unwrapped it on my bed since moving it didnt seem like a good option! The mattress has no smell to it as some of you mentioned above. It has been about 4 hours and it seems like it might be done poofing but does still have a rather large ridge down the middle of the mattress where it was folded. Some of you mentioned that it will go away in a few days but I am wondering if others are having this problem! I would suggest ordering the mattress from costco online since they will come and pick it up if you want to return it. I think that I will like this mattress a lot if the ridge goes away so any advice will be greatly appreciated! Oh and the cat thinks its the bees knees!
Several months ago i remember reading comments about the Fresh dreams mattress getting "firmer" with time. Is anyone else having that problem? i ordered the Freshdreams on May 1. Have had it for 4 months now. Here are my issues.
1-The center 'hump' where it was folded is almost imperceptible to the eye, but is like a small mountain between my husband and myself when we are in bed!
2-my second issue is that it indeed seems to be firmer now that it was initially. my thought is that the foam is more 'compressed' now and we no longer sink into it as deeply as before. (?) my husband is about 245lbs and he feels the problem is even more pronounced on his side of the bed. he complains that he feels like he is about to roll out of the bed each night!
That being said- the mattress is going back to costco. yes, the return process is very easy. call customer service- no questions asked- (although i was on hold waiting for a good 10min). they took my info, then a few days later someone called back to give me my return options (this surprised me). 1-return it myself to warehouse (yeah, right!) 2-donate it to charity and mail the donation conformation from the charity to costco and they would issue credit 3-have trucking company come pick it up (my choice). waited another week for the trucking co to call to arrange pick up. they will pick up mattress next week. hopefully all will go smoothly, but overall, i am very pleased with the process so far. as for the next bed purchase, i think i will go with the tempurpedic- we are now 'hooked' on the memory foam- even if the Freshdreams didn't work out for us. Thank goodness we saved the old mattress so we have something to sleep on until we get the next mf mattress delivered!
Thanks to everyone on here who has posted information on this mattress. We purchased the Elite king from Costco at the store. Brought it home and opened it last night. It was manufactured on July 10th, 2007.
As of this morning the middle ridge is gone but the edges are still flat. The center has puffed up nicely but it pretty much slopes down on either side. Anyone else have a similar experience? Should I take the cover off? I noticed a previous poster heated it up to 98F. Maybe a hair dryer would work.
I'm going to wait a couple days before I get concerned but I really don't want to take it back.
My husband and I received the Novaform Comfortluxe King about a week ago and had similar issues with the ridge and depressions around the edges. Sleeping on it felt like sleeping on a side-hill! Despite that, it is still pretty comfortable, which I think says a lot.
We tried putting heavy boxes on the ridge for a couple of days, and that seemed to help, but the ridge feels like it grows back during the night. We were about to call to have Costco to return it, when I read Dave's 8/31 post. (Thanks, Dave!) We tried his suggestion for about four hours yesterday, and it seemed to help with the ridge and the corner issues. We are going to let it bake in sun again today without its cover and see if that helps.
We are not sure which Novaform mattress to order, the Fresh Dreams or the Comfortluxe. We liked the comfort of Tempurpedic Rhapsody modle we tried in the store. Can anyone tell me which one of the Costco modles is closest in feel to the Rhapsody? Thanks
Well I live in MN so having it bake in the sun isn't an option. So I used a hair dryer on the flattened edges and this morning it seemed a little better. I'll try it again tonight and give it a couple more days. I don't know if the crush marks will ever go away though.
The center ridge is completely gone.
I just purchased a Comfortluxe King from costco.ca (right now it's $110 dollars off). I'm praying that it will inflate okay… Does anyone have any experience with a memory foam matress on an slatted frame? I bought an Ikea Hemnes King size bed frame for my matress:
http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/S79842786
I'm probably going to buy an extra set of slats to double up the spacing and minimize the gaps between, or just lay a couple of sheets of plywood on top. Anyone know where a good place to pick up deep pocket sheets from the 12" matress? Do most of you use memory foam pillows as well?
I have had the Comfortluxe Queen for two weeks now. FYI – In Colorado, the mattress seemed to flatten into shape by the end of the day – there was heat, but no humidity.
I am finding it hard to get used to sleeping on the mattress. Typically I like a firmer mattress as I have lower back issues. I had been sleeping on a superfirm mattress with a Costco 2 1/2 inch topper, as my shoulder needed more padding after a car accident. I thought the Comfortluxe would give me an extra amount of "sinkability" that the mattress didn't have, but at a firmer level than a thicker topper would be.
I find the Comfortluxe to be as firm as a firm mattress, but different. I tried putting my topper on it and found that it was only better for a day. I toss and turn all night and sometimes can't get back to sleep – with or without the topper. I am trying to allow for body adjustment and foam break-in, but I am wondering if it just isn't going to happen. So I have my old mattress/topper next to the Costco one as a backup.
Anyone else having trouble getting used to the mattress? I have been told it takes a week to break-in the mattress, but it doesn't feel any different. And that it could take a month for the body adjustment, but I thought I might just be uncomfortable in the meantime, not having so much trouble sleeping. Anyone else?
So my wife and I have been sleeping on the comfortluxe for a little over a month now. My wife doesn't like it, but doesn't hate it either. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I wouldn't call it the most comfortable mattress I've ever has as others have put it. There's no "ahhh" factor when you get in it. I tossed and turned more on this mattress the first two weeks, but now I am tossing about as much as my original mattress. I was expecting to sleep in a coma like state with this mattress, but that's not the case. I will say that I am liking it more each day, and that I am not as ache-y as I had been. However, I was expecting more out of this mattress. It will probably end up in the guest room vs. returning it. I'll post again in another month.
We've been sleeping on Elite for about a week now. It took a couple nights to get used to it but we like it. The ends still haven't completely filled out though. If they don't after a month it's going back.
We kept the cover on and put a fitted sheet over it. What does everyone else do? Do I need to keep the cover on? I have found that deep pocket sheets are too deep and tend to bunch up. I use a memory foam pillow but my wife does not.
Two things: What about us poor folk in Hawaii? Costco won't ship there.
I may buy one on the mainland and ship it. If so, any clue as to if and/or when Costco may have a sale on the Comfortluxe again?
My King size Comfortluxe arrived on Thursday and it decompressed without any problem. I live in North Vancouver and it only took 4 days to be shipped from Montreal by UPS. I left it with it's cover on, in a south facing room with the windows closed over the weekend to heat it up. There is still a slight ridge down the middle, but it seems to be smoothing out. The edges fully decompressed and I don't feel like I'm going to roll out of the bed. This matress does get hot when you sleep on it. I wouldn't even consider the Elite without the coolwave layer.
As for the Ikea slats, I decided against doubling up the slats or placing plywood over top.
I slept on it last night without any sheets and have no complaints. I think that it will take a couple of nights to get used to it though. I'm still stumped on what I should do for sheets… Greg, who posted above, said "I have found that deep pocket sheets are too deep and tend to bunch up" But I had to wrestle my old fitted sheets over my last 8" thick matress. I think getting the same type would pinch the edges, but it's still too thin for 16" deep pocket sheets. Has anyone found any sheets that properly fit?
Just pick up some of these:
http://www.lnt.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1354909&cp&kw=sheet+strap&origkw=sheet+strap&sr=1
And your sheets will stay nicely in place.
I just got a mailer from Costco yesterday and starting on October 8 there will be $150 off the Queen and King Comfortluxe.
addendum to my previous post… $150 off, shipping and handling included, online only, Oct.8 to Oct.28
Can this mattress be folded back into smaller shape after expanding? I want to buy a king size mattress for my room but I dont think a regular mattress will fit up my stairs. I think this mattress will be a good alternative since it comes in a box. I just don't know about ever getting it out of my room once its expaned.
Thanks,
Jay,
You can fold it and tie it.
Laura.
Thanks for the feedback Laura. I will probably purchase one in the next few weeks and try to write a review.
Was ready to try the Comfortluxe. Now Costco lists the "Comfort Royale."
http://www.costcoconnection.com/connection/2007_home/?pg=29
Anyone know anything about this one? Looks like CoolWave foam is now Coolbreeze foam.