I was in the need for a new bed and I decided to splurge a little and get a memory foam mattress. I have been researching foam mattress online for quite a while and have heard mostly good things about visco-elastic memory foam mattresses. All was good with these except for the price. Lucky for me my new job gave us Costco memberships…so I checked out there site and saw that they had Novaform Memory Foam mattresses in their online catalog. With a little bit more research I decided to purchase one. I would have gotten it right from the costco store, but they only had queen size beds, and I wanted to stick with a full/double size since all of my bedding was already that size.
I waiting until the conversion rate between the US and Canada favored the US dollar and ordered the Novaform mattress online at costco. The price was 669.99 plus taxes Canadian, and it included shipping. Include PST and GST and the price was up around $100 more…still a bargain for a memory foam mattress regardless of brand or store!
Costco had good email communication and shipped the mattress the next day. 2 days later it was scheduled for delivery and I was ready to get the mattress. My excitement quickly turned into rage once I found out the douchebag driver at UPS decided not to drop it off that Friday night when it was scheduled. Of course here in Canada they do not do fuck all on the weekend, so I had to wait until Monday to sleep in this new memory foam bed.
Well Monday I go to work and the Novaform was delivered. It comes in a giant box, it was like 3.5 feet by 2 feet by 2 feet and weighed around 80 lbs. If you purchase the queen sized bed at a costco store the price is a bit cheaper (no shipping) and it comes in a sweet box with a metal frame on the bottom with casters so you can roll it around.
Well I lug this bitch into my bedroom, open the box…CAREFULLY! Inside there is this giant mylar/tinfoil looking bag that is vacuum sealed around the foam mattress. I read the instruction and carefully cut this open. Inside is another bag containing the mattress and is also vacuum sealed. Well the second you cut this bag open it whistles as air is sucked in and the mattress starts to grow. I open it the rest of the way and the stick of toxic fumes hits my sinuses… I read reviews that the smell was intense for a few days and reminded people of gasoline…it smells more like paint thinner…and it is pretty strong.
Well I unfold the bed and wait 24-36 hrs for it to completely grow. The smell goes away after a few days and the bed grows to its full 12" thick size. For those of you that do not know the mattress is 12" thick, 9" of regular foam, and 3" of high density heat sensitive memory foam. It is then covered in a removable cover.
Now for the best part…the sleep. The bed is amazing, better than any bed I have ever slept on, it is firm yet soft and gives just enough support but had enough give in it to not make your neck or back hurt when you wake up. I also bought a Novaform memory foam pillow for 22 Canadian and the thing is equally brilliant. If you cannot buy the bed, do yourself a favor and go to costco and buy the pillows…they are great.
Overall the Novaform bed gets a solid 9 rating and probably a 10 for value, at least compared to other memory foam mattresses. I would be careful of the stink of the mattress and would not recommend getting it in the winter…wait until you can air the room out for a few days…the smell was STRONG, but it goes away and the sleep that you get is more than enough to make up for the smell.
Another sweet feature is that if your partner gets up in the middle of the night, you sleep right through it. It is simple amazing. Do yourself a favor and go get one of these "space age" Novaform heat sensitive memory foam mattress at costco.
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We bought a 21/2inch novaform from costco and it didnt open up around the edges after 3 days so we took it back and got another one. We opend it up acordenly to the instucktion its been laying flat for four days now and its worse than the first one was . It still has about 2" around of the edge of the entirer foam mattress that hasn't filled in yet. What sould we do?
My parent's have the identical problem. They returned their first 2 and a half inch novaform from Costco for a second, and the second has the same problem (doesn't fill in around the edges).
Seems like the 2 and a half inch Novaform mattress toppers from Costco are all defective.
The regular mattresses seem like a great product, but wouldn't recommend buying the topper from Costco.
I am still wheezing and coughing from the smell. I don't think it goes away
you just get used it.
Hi!
I have the same problems with the 2 1/2 inch novaform! My parents bought two of them and me one and they do no fill on the edge!
My Costco(Grand Rapids, MI)had pulled all the toppers off the floor and didn't have them back for a week or so. They said they had been returned by request of the manufacturer because of defects. Return to Costco–they should make it right.
Hi thanks for the info on the 12 inch thick foam beds from costco Anybody else have any comments on them They sound like a great deal I have a twin tempurpidic 8 each it's great but need a bigger bed Way to much money to dish out for them
I don't know about the matttress, but I got a topper from there and had to return it. It was vacuum packed. The instructions said it would take a few days to open to it's original shape, but after almost two weeks it was still not back to normal. I ended up buying a 10" matress from RestOnClouds and LOVE it. It has helped my back pain so much. They have toppers too, but I decided it was time for a new mattress anyway. Memory foam is the way to go!
I bought the memory foam topper and was a bit chagrined that I could not use it the first night, as it said it needed 24-72 hours to expand. It was completely filled out by the next day, and the stink factor was bearable.. it is awesome product, no morning back aches! I do feel bad for the guy next to me who had to lug the heavy full size memory mattress he bought home, only to find that it takes a few days to expand, and the stink factor.. well, it must have been overpowering.. your stories made me think of this guy and it made me laugh out loud to think of what he went through!
I bought the king mattress from costco.com and lugged it up the stairs (125lb). I had to roll it up in the vacuum sealed bag. After carefully opening the seal, I let it expand. I also removed the covers (there are two layers). However, I saw four holes on the memory foam, they look like manufacturing defects. They are not large but still disconcerting. Also, the mattress is not perfectly flat. The memory foam is bent is all four edges. I don't think it will return to shape since it has been expanding for about 4 days now. Also the glue between the memory foam layer and the traditional foam layer is not strong. They are already separating. Are these defects typical for this mattress? Should I return this and order another one.
You might want to, it sounds like you got a bum one. I have never opened mine up to look at it however…so I may be shocked if I do!
I have been extremely happy with my full size mattress and would totally buy another memory foam mattress over an air or spring mattress in the future. This has been my first one, and I am very happy with it.
I am looking into buying a queen memory mattress from costco, but I notice in the online add that it does not come with a box spring. Does it need to have one for most beds? We just bought a four poster bed on sale at Bombay Company and this is my first time purchasing a mattress.
No, you do not need a box spring. Even the floor is okay, As long as you have a slat-base (platform base) you should be fine.
can you put the mattress on a set of king sized box springs?
I am sure that you could, but there is no need to. I do not think it would change the performance of the mattress if you did place it on a boxspring, unless the condition of the boxspring was poor.
I bought a Dormia brand memory foam mattress, king size. Big box, shocking smell for two days, but after that, it has been perfect! No more back pains. Only nine inches thick, so fitted sheets work well on it. I use the old box spring from my coil mattress. I paid half what Tempur Pedic costs and had great service on the phone. They financed the purchase at 0% for a year. Now I need a queen-size, and I'll buy it from them.
I just bought a king size Novaform from costco and unwrapped it last night. I was prepared for a horrible, poisonous vapor because I have researched the product and read other's reports of the smell, but nothing. Not even a hint of any scent whatsoever unless I pout my face directly on the mattress, and even then it was just a sort of new-clothes smell. It seems as if it is nearly done decompressing after only about 14 hours. I plan to sleep on it tonight. I wonder how you can tell when it is finished expanding, other than eyeballing it, and does it mess it up if you sleep on it before it's finished? Anyone know? I called sleep innovations using the number on their website but (eerily) no one answered. Not even voice mail.
it's hard to find the opinion about the Novaform mattress but the topper. How is the mattress? Temper Pedic carries several versions and I wonder where the Novaform Elite mattress fit into. Does anyone experienced sagging in the middle of the bed? I wonder the durability of the bed.
Just unwrapped my Novaform Queen size 12 inch mattress. I cannot smell any odor that is noticable.
do you recycle the heavy duty plastic top and bottom frame with wheels? It seems like such a waste…..couldn't you use them over to sell another mattress?
And, I love my mattress…..I sleep much more comfortably and it doesn't slope down since my boyfriend weighs much more than I do….
Does anyone know what this mattress will do over time? Will it start sagging, ripping, falling apart or does it stay the way it is?
Thanks
We were thinking of buying the novaform memory foam mattress for our cottage but we are concerned about it being temperature sensitive. Our cottage is not winterized so it would spend the winter in a below zero temperature. Would this damage it do you think?
We just bought a queen size mattress this weekend. We also had to lug it upstairs but once we opened up the box it was smooth sailing from there. It expanded within 24 hours with no problems. It does have a slight odor, but nothing we can't deal with. We purchased a platform bed to put it on, but I will tell you that I emailed Sleep Inovations and they got back to me right away letting me know it can be used on a floor, platform, slats or box spring.
I will also say that I noticed my husband sleeping on his right side last night and not snoring like he normally does. I'm hoping it's because of the mattress.
I've been emailing w/ a Cosco customer services rep. She advised that it might be smarter to buy their Novaform mattress online, rather than in a Costco store. If you're not happy with the mattress, Costco will pick it up at no charge. If you buy at the store, you are responsible for returning it to the store.
How are they for threesomes?
We just opened the box with our Novaform queen size mattress, expecting the worst, in terms of smell, and were pleasantly surprised. Very little odour, if any, and it fully expanded within 12-14 hours. However, my wife any I both had a very unrestful sleep the first night. I chalked it up to sleeping on a new mattress, but my wife pointed out that she felt the mattress made her feel unbearably hot. The second night, I felt the same way. Has anyone else had this experience? Do we need the mattress topper as well to avoid this?
After quite a few research, I finally decided to bought the 12" matress from costco.
When I opened the package, I actually didn't smell anything unless I stick my nose on the matress, it wasn't pleasant, but it is not that bad either. It seem to me that they fix the smell issue for this year. (since if you check, the reviews from 05 have the smell issue and the ones from 06 don't)
It says the bed may need 24~72 hours to completely decompress, but I find it decompressed just in few hours. I am going to wait for a day to really sleep on it for a whole night. But I did took a short nap on it after I find it pretty much decompressed (it's just hard to resist)
The bed is amazing. The memory foam is high quality and the conventional foam underneth is very solid. You can tell it is high density foam overall. I have to say that this matress is as comfortable as the expensive tempur-pedic memory foam matress (the ones in Brookstone) And for the price, is well worth it. Believe me, you don't wanna get up in the morning if you sleep in one of this.
I bought the Novaform queen mattress at Costco in 2004 and I love it. No more back pain and you can't feel your partner or pooches move at all. The smell while sleeping on it was really bad for about a month. From the sound of things, they got that problem fixed. I also sweated buckets the first couple of nights until I realized I didn't need my flannel jammies and sheet-blanket-comforter anymore. Now I sleep nude with a minimal cover. Buying it online so if you don't like it they will pick it up sounds really smart because this thing would be a bear to get back to the store. I just wish Costco would sell sheets to fit this thing. BTW, I use the rolling box it came in as a garbage can in my basement!
Hey. We are setting up our Queen Topper Elite from Costco. I have a question. Should we leave it out of the matteress cover that comes with the 1 1/2 fiber fill while it expands or would it be easier to put it in the cover and then let it expand?
We love these things. Have only slept in a camper on a 1 1/2 inch one at my sisters. This was a great gift for my wifes birthday…
Look forward to your comments and opinions.
Tim and Susan
I am about ready to pull the trigger on a queen size novaform from costco… Our warehouse is a ways away so we get there maybe once a month but don't they carry an 8" version as well? I thought I remember seeing it but wanted to be sure. I'll call the store tomorrow as well but all the stores carry different stuff.
Has anyone seen an 8" version of the novaform mattress??
Thanks very much!
Jay
I'm considering buying the queen size novaform mattress. However, I'm very concerned about any heat issues as I'm moving into a hot top floor apt. At least two comments mentioned heat issues. What is your experience as far as extra heat is concerned? Costco has a Novaform Cool Wave mattress onsale (online) for just 10 dollars more than the original. Maybe this is the way to go. Any comments about the heat issue appreciated. BTW, Jay, didnt see an 8" version online but that doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
I do not think the heat is that bad, but maybe I am used to it?
I asked a friend that stayed over and she did not really notice any extra heat from it.
For the $10 more, it seems like you may as well go with that? I know nothing about the cool wave version.
Sorry I could not be of more help.
After own the queen size matress for a month, I have to say isn't a moment that I'm not satisify with this bed. This Bed is simply amazing, there is no heat issue or anything. It does feel more firm when the room is cooler, and it'll get softer as you lay on it and your body heat will soften it. I think this bed worth every penny that I spent. I wake up everyday feeling great and looking forward to go to bed everyday now.
Thanks for replies re:heat. Think I'm gonna go for it!
Wow! Seems like the matress topper is a slow riser. Ours has been laying for a week and the edges are still not filled out. Will they ever? Should I take it back? Did some fill out over time?
I bought the King "Cool Wave" mattress from Costco. So far it seems to be a great mattress. It was shipped by UPS and weighs over 125 pounds. When it was delivered, the box had been compromised and was re-strapped by UPS. When you remove the mattress from the box it hardly looks like a mattress since it is compressed to fit in the box. There are 2 air tight bags to cut through. Cutting through the bags was kinda fun. Once you cut through the second bag the mattress immediately starts to expand. It's fast too. I'd say within 10 minutes most of the expansion happened. I think the manufacturer made some improvements to the mattress. Needless to say you really need to plan out where you unpack the matress. Once it expands it is very hard to move so plan ahead. Note that the mattress did not smell as bad as I thought it would. Some pads we have had stunk for days and were unuable. Also, the manufacturer says it has to be on a solid surface so no box springs should be used. Instead, I built a plywood platform/base which cost about $50 total. Again, the mattress seems to be great and made very well. So far we are very happy with it and would highly recommend it.
Chris, how did you go about building the plywood base for the nova foam mattress?
We are about to spring for the Queen Cool Wave, but we have a concern about our current bed frame, which has wooden slats. Is it important to place a flat smooth surface above the slats underneath this type of foam mattress? A couple of posters above imply that the foam mattress directly on the slats would be OK. I guess the concern is about foam squeezing through the slats and becoming deformed over time. Anyone have problems withthis mattress directly on slats?
Guy
Guy,
My engineering mind tells me you'll extend the life of the matress by placing it on a flat surface. That will reduce the stresses to only compression, which is what a matress is designed to handle.
I have a platform bed with a conventional matress and I cut two sheets of "finished face" 3/8 plywood and placed them over the bed slats. The plywood acts as the flat surface. The finished face is just to reduce splinters.
The flat surface prevents twisting stresses (moments) on the springs and spring frames.
I'm thinking about a foam matress and I plan to leave the plywood inplace–spanning the slats. Without the plywood, I envision a sort of tension stress on the foam that think could tear it.
Marco
I have the original cal king and was very happy with it. Best sleet ever. Only problem is I bought it in the winter and it was fine. Now we are in the summer heat and my wife and I feel hot to sleep on it.
So I bought the cool wave to compare since we needed another bed (same size) and it feels cooler but the firmness is different (softer feel) and it doesn't seem as flat as the original one. It sort of bows from head to toe and it has had 5 days to expand. Anyone else notice this?
I will try to call novaform to discuss.
This is good info to compare our experiences.
I am overall very satisfied with the comfort and value of this product.
I'm just about to buy a memory foam mattress from Costco but I haven't decided between the Coolwave or the standard edition. Considering the higher price, is it worth it to pay more for the Coolwave version or stay with the standard edition?
I am on my 6th King Novaform Naturals memory foam topper from Costco! I had to return 5 of them because they would not expand fully. The edges were still pancake flat after several days. There is hope, though, because I opened the sixth topper and–you won't believe this–it was NOT vacuum packed with all the air sucked out of the package like the other 5! It had just enough air sucked out to fit into the box, as it should be. It was NOT pancake flat around the edges.Yay! To my joy, within minutes of breaking the vacuum seal, it expanded fully. BUT that is not the end of the story. Now just 3 weeks later, I noticed a depression in the foam where I sleep. I opened the zippered cover to let the air circulate in the hope it would puff up again. But I couldn't believe my eyes—here and there all over the surface of the foam pad were CRACKS! Fissures! I pushed down on the foam in the area of the crack, and it continued to crack! More cracks spread out from the original crack. Now the pad resembles the Grand Canyon! Well, slight exaggeration, but hopefully you get my point. It has deep crevices all over the surface! I am so frustrated with this product! I had great hopes for this pad because it was not tightly vacumm packed, and it unfolded extremely easily. I am thinking of giving up on Novaform and trying Healthy Foundations. Anyone have better luck with that one?
I read that most memory foam products start to loose their elasticity(do not come back to full shape) after 12-15 years, (wich is still a long time) and also read that Tempur products can last up to 25-30 years, wich could justify the price (they use a higher density foam) but i still think I will go for the Novaform.
Thanks.
Yeha, I am torn about whether to go with the Cool Wave or the regular Novaforn Elite Mattress–Which one is closer to feeling like the Tempur-Pedic? Is it true (as someone mentioned)that the cool wave feels softer? If that is true, does it give the same support?
I thought I would leave my initial review on the
Novaform Cool Wave King size matress I just bought from Costco online. I decided to buy it mainly because I was concerned about getting another inner spring matress. The one I replaced only lasted comfortably for 4 years and it wasn't exactly a cheap bed. I also was impressed by Costco's price, which I paid $810.00 total including S&H (that was with a $150 off discount they recently had)which was a great deal compared to the Tempur brand or a Sleep number bed. I read the reviews on this site and others and considering the density of the foam, which I believe is 5lbs, I made the investment. First off, and no fault to Costco, UPS "lost" my shipment. I don't think they care too much for delivering oversized boxes and once they found it the driver wasn't happy about dragging the 145lb box out of his truck. So my advice is to stay on top of shipping company. Once I set the box up in my bedroom I followed the instructions for opening it but the inner vacuum sealed bag was heat sealed to the outer so it ripped when I cut open the packed. That made it impossible to slide out the matress because it had begun to deflate. It was easy enough to get around that by cutting the entire bag open along the gap where the matress was folded. But when the matress sprung to life out of the bag it ended up upside down and it was quite an effort to turn a 145 lb king sized beast with no inner skeleton over. Also, there was a slight smell, nothing too bad, and it went away in a couple of days. Ok, now for the sleep part of the review. First off, my wife and I also bought the Novaform pillows, which I do like aalthough at times they can be overly firm. We have the bed setup on the floor right now since we replaced a queen matress and couldn't use that box spring. If we keep the bed we will probably get an Ikea bed frame. Slepping of the bed is different. The matress feels top quality, it's very dense and more on the firm side. I do not get any heat issues and I am one to over heat easily. When you first lay down on the bed you do sort of sink in a bit, but slowly. You feel the bed providing support. In some ways this is what becomes uncomfortable to me. I do have some lower back pain and I feel my heavier parts (rear end) sinking in further than my lighter parts (legs, back). As you sink in you feel an outward pressure against your areas closest to you heavier body parts. In my instance my lower back. I usually start on my back and then switch to my side in themiddle of the night and I notice a delay in the bed adjusting to my new position so it gets uncomfortable waiting for that softness feeling so I end up tossing and turning a bit. I am 6' and about 200lbs, my wife is 5'2 and 110 lbs…she doesn't have any problems with the bed and says she sleeps better. I initially felt good about the bed, waking up in the morning not sore but a week into it I am tossing and turn more and more. So my plan of action is to get a pillowtop matress pad or feather bed and possibly go back to regular pillows and if that doesn't work then I might just get another inner spring matress and deal with replacing it every 4 years. I hope this review helps any potential shoppers.
I also recently purchased a Novaform CoolWave Memory Foam mattress from Costco Online. It was kind of annoying that I had to contact Costco to get the tracking number only to find that UPS was on their third and final attempt to deliver the mattress. You have to sign for it, which I suppose makes sense, but for households that are empty during a typical work day it can be tricky trying to coordinate. But you probably only care about the mattress, so I'll get on with it.
First of all, I'm don't have any major back issues or anything else to comment on, just my own preferences. I switched because my old mattress (Kingsdown — avoid) had begun sagging in the middle and there was very little mid/lower back support. I really like the support the Novaform provides, and I agree it is more on the firm side if anything, but not at all too firm. Let's say 6 or 7 out of 10, 10 being the firmest. I'm 6'1" 170lbs. and I haven't had any of the problems described by JG. The mattress doesn't take long to form after I shift positions, and in fact, I find myself shifting less. I used to sleep on my side a lot, but I find myself waking up on my back, and often that's how I fall asleep now. I somewhat agree with JG that you can feel pressure in certain parts, but my take on that is the poor posture I've developed from sleeping on subpar mattresses is being corrected. A mattress is something that we spend a lot of time on, so we're very sensitive to even the slightest change. I'm going to give it some time before jumping to any conclusions.
I haven't had any heat issues either, and that is something that I am very aware of when sleeping. I noticed a smell, like others have said, if I put my face right up to the mattress, and even then it is not unpleasant.
The mattress does take at least a full 24 hours to completely fill out. I opened it one night and slept on it the next, even though it probably could've used a little more time.
If you are thinking about buying it, I'd say definitely go for it. I've had about a week of very comfortable sleep on the mattress and am very glad I went ahead with it. Having the reassurance of Costco's return policy seals the deal. If you aren't happy, send it back. If the bottom foam "breaks down" like a true Tempurpedic supporter will tell you, send it back. Heat and low quality materials are what Tempurpedic attempts to retain as the disadvantage of their competitors, neither of which are present in this mattress — if you're on the market for a mattress, and are considering this one, get it.
Forgot to mention — $600 total delivered right to the door for a queen size … can't beat that.
I plan to buy a king size at costco asap! However I have 4 children…and even with mattress covers, I find you can't control the once in a while "pee" or "being sick" … I was just wondering: From those that have had it for a while…how do you clean a memory foam mattress???? and does it clean well? What type of cover can I use, not to ruin the whole effect?
I placed an order for the Queen sized mattress from Costco–should arrive in a couple of days. I just had a quick question about sheets. Do people bother with sheets for the Novafoam Mattress or is the cover that it comes with good enough?
I think you would want to use sheets… otherwise you would have to wash the cover which I am assuming would wear out with time, and is probably a pain to remove.
You need pretty "deep pocket" sheets for the mattress as it is very thick.
Initially I had planned on buying sheets…but then, I came across someone online saying that sheets defeat the purpose of the MEMORY FOAM because it takes away from the feel of the foam. I have my doubts but I wanted input, thanks!
Can anyone comment on how it "feels" compared to the Tempur-Pedic? I think I am going with the Cool Wave–I called Sleep innovations and the rep said the Cool Wave was a newer mattress,and is the new flagship–may as well go with it–Also the Cool Wave Memory Foam at the top is a bit softer so the mattress will have a softer feel.
Don, you said you had both the original and the cool wave. Also, that the cool wave was softer and seemed slightly bowed. Can you give a followup – is the cool wave still bowed and which do you prefer?
I bought a CalKing CoolWave mattress from Costco. It's been just over a week, and I really enjoy it. My BeautyRest is 20 years old. It's still in pretty good shape, but at my age (67), I'm finding that I prefer the softer feel of the CoolWave. At the same time, it seems to provide much better support. (The BeautyRest does show some signs of sagging.)
I put it on my old box springs but would like to build a plywood platform for it. Like TY, I'm hoping that Chris will share some construction tips with us.
To answer the common question here, I would get sheets, I don't think the mattress cover is meant to be slept on. I got a nice set of 600TC sheets from Linens 'N Things and they feel really good on the mattress.
As for the question about kids and cleaning the mattress I don't know how to clean it, but I don't think it is a bridge that you want to cross. I've had waterproof mattress liners before to protect mattresses from sweat and dirt, and each time I got rid of them after about a week because the surface underneath you (if waterproof) obviously won't breathe at all and will make you uncomfortably hot.
So the catch 22 is, leave your mattress unprotected, or make it much more uncomfortable. I don't know what the right choice is here, but I can imagine getting urine out of a memory foam mattress will be an impossible chore. That might be a question for NovaForm's customer service.
Hope that helps.
Also, extremely deep pocket sheets are not necessary. I didn't shop around for anything in particular and mine worked out fine, plus most sheet now are designed to accomodate deeper mattresses.
For those wondering about bed construction, from what I've seen with mine, if you have a slatted frame, the slats should be now more than a couple inches spart or the foam on the bottom will start to poke through. My old box spring mattress was on a frame supported by only 3 slats which would not be an option for this mattress.
I actually switched the plywood for my bed frame from close-spaced slats because two pieces of plywood only cost me $30 at Lowe's and it will probably preserve that mattress better.
To summarize, if you are constructing a bed frame the surface that the mattress actually rests on should either be plywood or slats with no more than a couple of inches in between slats. If you need construction advice beyond that, I'm not a carpenter and would recommend consulting one
Has anyone here who owns one of these ever experienced back stiffness with these mattresses? Some Temur-Pedic owners experience stiffnes inback and shoulders because you do not move at all during the night–you kind of stay in one place-which is good in the sense that there is less tossing/tirning, but some people do report stiffness due to this–
"Chris, how did you go about building the plywood base for the nova foam mattress?"
I originally used 2×4s and 1/2 inch plywood. Total cost was about $50. The 2×4s we used to elevate the plywood off the metal fram. We have since purchased another bed frame and now only use the plywood minus the 2×4s.
The bed itself has been great. Worth every penny. My wife is pregant and neither of us feel the other get out of bed. I also have noticed that I sleep throughout the night without moving much.
Chris, thank you for your frame comments. I talked with a carpenter today who suggested 3/4 inch plywood with about 2 feet spacing on the 2×4s.
JG, I'm aware of still moving around during the night. Perhaps the cats trigger that.
I feel less stiffness in all parts of my body. It hasn't been a dramatic change for me. Perhaps a new conventional mattress would have had the same effect.
Overall, I really like the Novaform. We seniors tend to be more sensitive to pressure. It feels fairly soft, but completely supportive. I prefer the feel to the "springy" feel of a conventional mattress.
Comment to SG
I returned the cool wave novaform back to costco as we decided we preferred the feel of the original novaform. To eliminate the heat problem we placed a matress pad on the mattress for the hot summer months and this seemed to help with the hot feel. I imagine the cool wave would have eventually flattened out but it just didn't feel as comfortable to us as it was just too soft. We love the original and hope they continue to make it as we now have 3 of them.
Don
Comment to SG
I returned the cool wave novaform back to costco as we decided we preferred the feel of the original novaform. To eliminate the heat problem we placed a matress pad on the mattress for the hot summer months and this seemed to help with the hot feel. I imagine the cool wave would have eventually flattened out but it just didn't feel as comfortable to us as it was just too soft. We love the original and hope they continue to make it as we now have 3 of them.
Don
I also purchased a queen size coolwave mattress at the recently passed sale price and this baby is awesome. Not hot at all and as strange as it sounds, it is soft yet firm all at once. Very supportive yet still very comfortable as I prefer a soft mattress.
I put a paper thin waterproof mattress pad on it to ensure no sweat gets through and it doesn't affect comfort one bit.
Also decided to try out the novaform 4" foam/microfiber topper and am now on the second one as i've had the same problem as mentioned above, these things simply don't expand well at all.
Coolwave mattress is great, the toppers are super comfortable but just don't seem to be up to standard by any stretch
I am considering the cool wave novaform king mattress from costco. It costs less in the store than online which confuses me. my issue is unique as i must ship it to florida and from there it will get shipped to jamaica at a $$cost since it weighs over 100lbs. then, i must pay $$duty. so it is a pricey purchase ultimately. If it doesn't open up, seems like i am taking a big chance! If i can get it back to florida if it fails, it is a huge piece of foam….wonder how it can be returned. how did you guys return it once it is inflated? this sounds like a rhetorical question, but any thoughts on taking this chance with the mattress? sounds like the topper is more problematic than the mattress. i have back problems, so this seems like it could be the answer. also, i am concerned about heat and sweat in a tropical climate. any thoughts?
SEA,
From what I've heard, if you are unsatisfied with an in-store purchase, Costco will refund your money after you return it to the store. For online purchases, they will come to the delivery address, pick it up, and refund your money. I don't know if this policy is different for mattresses or not, but it sounds like if you were unhappy, you would be responsible for getting the mattress back to the nearest Costco warehouse yourself.
If it's something that you plan on going through with, I would see if they will match the cheaper store price for an online purchase so that if you need to return it, they will at least pick it up for you from the delivery address in Florida.
Hope that helps.
Re toppers – I agree with everyone, the edges of the toppers are slow to decompress. However I gently rolled the edges to soften the foam. It expanded perfectly!!! If we are comfortable with the King size topper, we are definately getting the mattress.
Everyone who is having problems with heat should try a wool mattress protector. This natural material will feel cool in the summer and warm in the winter and protect the mattress against sweat. Also, to keep the feel of the memory foam, try 100% cotton JERSEY sheets. They are more stretchy and contour with the mattress better. Good Luck!
Any side sleepers out there wake up with mid-back pain? We just got our Novaform Coolwave, and it seems really firm.
I am a side sleeper, and like my question hints at, I wake up with a hurting back about 5 or 6 hours into the night's sleep.
Heh, I'm considering buying a mattress topper to make it a little more cushy.
Also, is it really true that if you ordered the bed from costco.com, they will come pick it up if you want to return it?
Carlos
Just noticed that Costco no longer carries Novaform Cool Wave mattress. Instead, Costco now has Novaform ComfortLuxe with higher density mid-layer memory foams. Has anyone tried or have information on this particular mattress? Namely, is it firmer than Cool Wave?
Thanks…
I noticed that they carry the NovaForm Full size – I am interested in the confortluxe memory if anyone has any feedback.
Thanks.
Um, sort of a weird question but I haven't seen anyone mention it. Are activities on the bed any different? Does it affect sex in a negative way? I'm serious about this question, not trying to be stupid.
Thanks!
I'm starting to wonder abouth the durability of this memory foam. I bought the Novaform pillow about a year ago at Costco. I also red many good reviews on memory foam mattresses and was thinking about buying one. But I recently noticed that my pillow had lost most of its memory properties.
I'm wandering now if I just got a bad one or if it is a "built-in" feature of this kind of foam. I did some research today and it seems that it is pretty common for memory foam to lose it's properties, even for the big names like Tempur (found many comments on epinion about problems after 2-3 years with Tempur-Pedic, see http://www.epinions.com/Tempur-Pedic_Swedish_Mattress/display_~reviews).
I'm now having some serious second toughts about spending hundreds of dollars for a mattress that would last only 2-3 years.
So anyone has any good long term experience about the durability of memory foam ?
Stefanie–I was wondering the same thing, but was afraid to ask–
Well, I'm definetely NOT buying it until I get some comments on this! Im a single girl and sex is still important to me.
Stefanie and JG… I will answer this one for you. Sex on a Memory Foam Mattress:
Before bought one of these I was also wondering how it was, but figured my sleep and back were more important than my sex life… anyhow I have used a couple times for non sleep activities (c;
First off it is quiet and absorbs impact a bit better than a regular bed, and probably does not have as much bounce to it as a regular mattress either… however sex can still be good on it and it is easy on your knees.
I am guessing for the average user it should be fine… however if you require extra bounce for your activities it may be lacking?
What exactly was your concern? I think before I bought mine I was thinking the other person would be sunk down below the "access" level, but this is not the case.
I have tried numerous positions ranging from missionary, to doggy to reverse cowgirl and it seems fine for any. The only real issue I have is the fact that it is now directly on my floor rather than on a bedframe, so floor to bed positions are a few feet off…
If you have any specific postion wise questions let me know… I can shoot an email off and get a ladies opinion as well?
I guess my main concern would be the "quick sand factor"–meaning you just sink in, and there is no support or resistance–but your endorsement sounds pretty good–I would also like to know what a women's perspective is as well so please do fire off that Email. The new "ComfortLuxe" looks amazing, BTW.
Thanks!
yeah i'm female so i dont care about the knees part…that's the guy's problem! lol. just wasnt sure if there'd be good leverage and bounce i guess.
i think i better just buy a regular mattress. hard to decide on the foam when i cant test it. also, i live by myself so i'd have to carry and unpack myself and i dont have that much ambition.
Oh there is plenty of leverage… I would maybe even say more leverage than a traditional matress, since your knees sink in a bit… for that it is excellent.
As far as bounce goes, I think it is fine for that as well, just less bouncy than a spring mattress.
Well, someone has to say it, and I elect myself. Stefanie … you can test on my mattress any time
Way to be a creep Kane…
lol, uh yeah. wait…send me a dossier and we'll see! haha
Hehe, btw, I think it's actually better for non-sleep activities because you sink less compared to regular mattresses. The dossier is in the mail.
…And you're the one who brought up reverse cowgirl, Werty.
Darn!! Went to finally buy the Queen Coolmax one and it's sold out!
Try ordering it online instead
No Coolwaves on the website, just the original and the ComfortLuxe…
Original:
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11025931&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&N=4013712&Mo=1&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&topnav=
Comfortluxe:
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11170037&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&N=4013712&Mo=1&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&topnav=
I think the comfortluxe is the same as acoolwave:
"The first layer of Cool Waveâ„¢ Memory Foam complements the breathable quilted cover by dispersing your natural body heat to keep you cool and comfortable throughout the night. The next two layers of premium memory foam combine to create superior customized comfort, pressure relief and support."
I don't think it is, plus it's significantly more expensive (~$300)
it's got an extra layer and a better layer but i think it is meant to replace the cool max. it's is about $300 more for the Queen. today i caved and bought a regular Simmons mattress. the air mattress i had been sleeping on was getting old. my boss wanted me to give him a ride home from work–at 2pm!!–so i stopped by the store on my way home and just bought it!! it's already been delivered so no foam mattress for me. maybe next time. or maybe i'll have to try someone else's out
I have two 2" Novaform toppers on top of 3" regular bed foam on top of Simmons Beautyrest mattress and box springs. It is heavenly to sleep on! I suffer from fibromyalgia plus body inflammation and cannot sleep on a firm mattress.
Heat is a problem for me, so I put a good quality quilted cotton fitted bed pad on all the foam. It is cooler and did not interfer with the heat sensitive memory foam. I tried it with and without the mattress pad, not enough difference to suffer getting too hot. However, I do not live in a real cold climate, remains moderate most of the time, hot in the summer and very mild winters.
Had thought about purchasing the memory foam mattress but after reading others comments I do believe my combination is best for me.
Misty
Stefanie,
You got a Simmons! Caving would have been buying a Novaform. Getting the Simmons is called "settling". Now you really will have to try one out to see what you're missing.
Yeah, I need to find one to try. Problem is you don't run across them in hotels ever. Until this year I traveled over 70,000 miles a year and don't think I ever came across one. It would be a good way to try one out though. Like renting a car you're thinking of buying. Guess I'll have to skank around until I come across one…haha kidding!
Are you traveling from Cali to NJ 20 times per year? I probably travel 20,000/year (outside of standard work commute) and I can't imagine doing more than 3 times that.
Go to a Sleepy's or something and try out a Tempurpedic. I guess it's too late at this point anyway, but you'll see that they would be excellent for "activities".
i bought the comfortluxe at costco.com, it was relatively easy, when it arrived it was sort of rolled up and folded. so when we undid it, and let it grow , i noticed one corner did not seem to fill, so i unzipped the cover to see what was going on, and i saw a tear in the middle of the memory foam. costco is awesome, so im not worried about the return, but i ordered the original instead, and when that arrives i will return this one, i love sleeping on it. but according to sleep inovations, it is firmer than the original. but i decided on the original because this never really did grow into a good square, that corner still isnt right. but i love the mattress. i read some reviews about the temperpedic, and my understanding is that they only make it about three years before that inner egg crate like foam gives and you get a sort of sink spot. and i dont think temper pedic is very good at standing behind there product, this mattress does not have the inner eggcrate part that the temperpedic has, so for 500 dollars if i get seven good years out of it, ill be happy. ill let you know how the regular one is when i get it.
Well, I was living in Anchorage and traveling within the state, to Austin, to Wash DC, to Florida, Seattle, and then overseas once or twice/year. I moved to Austin about 2 weeks ago and will probably just travel to like Dallas a bunch, and some Waco and San Antonio maybe. So….I won't be sleeping on many hotel beds now unless they are local of course.
Well, everyone enjoy your foam bed. Keep this thread alive for a few years Werty so we can all see how the beds are holding up.
WE ordered the novaform coolwave 2 weeks ago – it finally arrived – we opened the package – smells a little like milk – not too strong – we were very excited about it, since our simmons beautyrest ($1200) died after 4 years (actually, for my aching back, it died after 2.5 years…)- so we let it inflate for >24 hours and finally finally slept on it. I was so disappointed. The edges have no support, so I have to sleep a good 12 inches from the edge – thats ok I guess, because my husband did too, so we were closer together! However, if you lay too close to the edge, you feel like you might roll off. I had to use the toilet in the middle of the night, and almost fell off the bed trying to get into it because it isn't so firm on the edges (by definition, it isn't as firm as the middle, because it doesn't have as much foam surrounding it) – well I got back in and slept again. Well, it is comfortable, but I woke up with a hip-ache. It hurts at the joint where the femur goes into the pelvic bone. I tried not to worry about it, and tried again last night. Same thing. Except today it is 4 hours after waking, and my back and hips still seriously hurt. Now, I won't say I don't have back issues – I have since doing gymnastics when I was a kid – and now I'm 39 – but this is ridiculous. I'm not old! I am going to spend tonight on the couch. My husband is so disappointed. He loves this thing, he is very comfortable, and didn't notice that he was avoiding the edge. He has no issues with his 33 year old body. I hate to disappoint him, but I can't live with this purchase. At least the Simmons didn't actively hurt me for about a year. I will go to my chiropractor on Monday, and then see how it goes in this bed. I think that if you have a good back you will enjoy this bed.
By the way, if you haven't notice this overwhelming squish on the sides, let me know, we might try to replace this one first.
Michelle, I feel like I am less likely to fall off the side of this bed than with a traditional mattress… I can bend my legs and have my knees hanging off and I feel totally safe not liek I will fall off… I have the original though, so maybe the density of the foam is different.
As far as back pain and things like that go, a girl I am seeing now says she hates the mattress, she complains of back pain and things like that from it, not to mention the heat problem… I do not notice any of it and love it… so who knows?
What is nova foam doing about all these corners that does not open?????????
Jane Aston
Does any one know how it supports you and feels to your back and sides of you are an overweight person?
Any more folks have comments on the new NovaForm Comfortluxe mattress? They are onsale for $150 off until 10/15/2006 at costco online.
Thanks,
Justin
I bought a king novaform 12" last January 2006 and have loved it ever since. Yes it smelled and I needed to air out the room for a day or two but it goes away and I tell you the sleep that I get on this bed is amazing. I researched like crazy prior to purchase, even emailed the company to make sure the foam density was comaparible to that of temperpedic and the like,, here is the email that I recieved with some info
Thank you for your inquiry regarding your interest in the Novaform
Mattress. The Novaform Mattress is 12 inches, which consists of a 3"
visco elastic memory foam top layer with a 4lb density, and a 9"
Polyurethane Foam Core with a 2lb density. The mattress is designed to
surround your pressure points for relief providing you with a restful
nights sleep. The mattress is designed to always return to its original
shape maintaining its firmness. The Novaform is resistant to mold and
mildew, it's durable, and long lasting. The mattress comes with a
removable cover that is machine washable.
The mattress contains a 10 year limited warranty, which covers
normal wear and tear of the mattress. If your mattress fails to provide
you with normal wear for 10 years it will be replaced. Per our warranty
please hold on to the original sales receipt, as it will be required for
a replacement.
The cover to the mattress is machine washable. Please follow
the washing instructions located on the "law tag," of the cover. I
believe the washing instructions are to wash the cover in cold water on
a gently cycle and the dry on low heat which may cause the cover to take
several hours to dry. The mattress itself can only be spot washed.
Please only spot wash this mattress with mild soap and water. The
mattress can not be soaked as it is Polyurethane Foam and will only
absorb water rather than dry. This mattress can not be flipped as the
memory is located on the top 3" of the mattress. The mattress does not
need to be flipped from head to foot. If you have any further
questions please do not hesitate to contact me directly at the number
below or via email. Thank you for purchasing our product.
Best Regards,
Courtney McDonald
Sleep Innovations Inc.
187 Route 36, Suite 101
West Long Branch, NJ 07764
p: (732) 403-1034
fax: (732) 263-0900
I just bought the Novaform Elite from Costco. I've slept on it 2 nights and my body hurts! It's much firmer than I realized it would be. I'm even using a memory foam topper and it helps somewhat. But I am waking up, tossing/turning and generally not sleeping well. I'm sooo disappointed! I wanted something I could melt into and it's not happening!! ANY ideas? Thanks so much!!!
Reading all of these, just confuse me. I have bulging disc and also degenerative disc disease. My old mattress was killing my back. So went out to find a new set. I tried so many. Seemed the softer the better it felt.
I tried a Aireloom Vitajeanie deep pillow top. I laid on it in the store for over 45min. and it felt so good and did not hurt my back. Purchased it and slept pain free for a bit over 30days, then my back started to hurt very bad. I complaine about the mattress that the one side leaned in towards the center of the bed and it was harder and taller than the other side. Long story. It was exchanged, and the exchange came firmer. I could not lay on that, so complained to Sit N Sleep again. They had me contact the makers of Aireloom. I went out to their factory and help choose a more comfy top to go on the mattress. When it was delivered, it was comfy, but in a short while (1 week) it starts sagging in the middle (queen size) and I could no longer sleep on it after 1 week, because of severe pain in my back.
I decided to try out an old firm double mattress and it hurt my back and could not sleep. So bought a 1 1/2" Spa Sensations Memory Foam topper from WalMart. Well, I have been sleeping on that not too bad.
I found the Sleep Inovations queen bed at Costco and have wondered about it ever since.
I could find someone to take my mattress, and keep the boxsprings. Do any of you have the same back problems as myself, bulging disc and degenerative disc???????
I do not want to spend more money only to find that it will hurt my back………..this is so depressing not being able to sleep in my 'expensive" bed that I got.
After reading all that is said about the mattress at Costco, it makes me want one. I also read a little bit on another site where a lady put the topper on top of this mattress and was also advised by Sleep Inovations rep that it would help prolong the life of the mattress. Much cheaper to keep buying new toppers.
So my question is, do you think I can put it on top of the new boxsprings? I know a solid foundation would be the best but I am single and can't get around that easy.
No one has said they have my type back troubles, so I am just curious about it.